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Where can I hide 4 Victas in my place where I already have 6 mowres a boat a trailer and some other stuff, my mates shed of course.
Old Claude passed away in Bundy, the family gave me these old mowers.
2 power torques
A6056AA90 Keystart
and AF055AA90

And a 4 stroke utility
and a 2 stroke MN332A9 with plastic carb.


All are not siezed and have sturdy wheels, frames.
So I can't wait to see if I can get them going...
Speedy
Bundy

The bottom two are my favourites. Particularly like seeing a Victa decal on a flat decked 70s model for a change!

Speedy do you know if that sidethrow one would have originally come out with a Briggs on it?

Victa offered the Briggs option on Utes from the 1988-89 model year Norm, so it could be original.

Hi Gadge, they always look like a bodge up when they put the motor on them so the pull cord is at the wrong angle, but I guess the base was drilled to suit the Powertorque so it puts the Briggs on that angle.

What about the 2 stroke exhaust cutting visible on the deck? Did they just release it that way from factory without blanking it off?
I'de love a four stroke version of a Victa utility for something different.

Victa just fitted a plastic blanking plug in the deck exhaust slot, on the 4-stroke versions.
P/No CH85985A, which is still available from a few online suppliers.

The Victa utility is a B & S. degreased it hosed it off, took the cover and fuel tank off., Blew off all parts with my air gun......
It had a spark, put it back together, bingo, then mowed the front lawn.. changed the oil and sharpened the blades , oiled the wheels, put a new airfilter in.
Top bearing was worn so magneto moved a little so I sanded off the coil and maggie, and set it at 20th.
Worked.
Then gave it to my mate for christmas........... as some runt stole his massport...
Yer pull cord is on wrong side but it works.

speedy
Bundy
ps once the rain and temp increases the grass grows here 1 inch a day , so mowers are in demand. But I want to keep my favourites.

that model Briggs would be to early for your ute Speedy i think.
Victa would have repostioned the starter to face the rear if it was original.

2 stroke MN332A9 with plastic carb. The Gold coloured one with the light coloured cowl is a 125cc I think.
It's engine no is 02002343 and VI on the other side of the engine.
speedy

Hang on, with the ute, it has the prime once only sticker at the back of the base which makes me believe it was a two stroke at one stage. Am i correct??

My thoughts from my first look at it, I couldn't see a manufacturer like Victa putting a motor on 90 degrees out of the accepted position

sorry to confuse, the ute is gone now.....
I'm not sure whether it was a 2 stroke once, maybe.
Thanks
I'm working on the 125 Gold Victa now.
speedy

By the way, i think that that gold victa is a Mayfair. They were mostly 125s I'm pretty sure

Well spotted. That clinches it.

Thx mower freak, when I saw that, I realised that it was a dead giveaway and decided to make the it known.

Soooo, how is the Mayfair doing? I bet that delightful 125 purrs like a kitty when it runs.

I have taken it apart, good compression good spark, so I am going to decoke engine..
Base is a bit rough, only one height setting so i am just going to use as a test base for the engine and wait for a base, maybe even a ute. I have just bought gaskets for head , barrel and carby. It was missing a few parts which I have, so that's my project now..
watch this space.
speedy

Does the Mayfair have a G4 or an lm???

Most likely a G4 unless it was built after 1980, which I doubt.

I'm confused. Here is a pic of the carb. It has black poppet.
speedy

Speedy, what is confusing you about the black poppet in a G4. I haven't tried using a black poppet, I just use the white ones and have no problems

I couldn't determine which it was. Thanks.
I just have to spend time working on it, all things here.
speedy

Speedy, from what I have been able to work out is that the G4's had a black poppet and the idle screw in the cap, I assume they did away with the idle screw in the LM's as a cost saving and maybe the different inner profile of the white poppet was to try and achieve an idle

What IS that knurled knob really good for? I have never found it makes much difference in all the years I had one.

Mowerfreak, it works if you modify the carby cam, and then it can be used to adjust the idle. The cam and kill switch design were the result of long lunches at Victa in the design stage

This is what I think killed the Mayfair.
the inner clip that holds that 5mm piece of rod that is mounted on the lower barrel. It has failed and let the rod vibrate loose and I think it fell down and hit the base plate and was shot up piercing the inner side of the muffler.
See pic.missing rod and hole.....
Guess the mowers performance slowed a bit .


I will put a bolt on there.
The barrel was smoothe and rings like new.

I guess it was a 1971 model as this is on the barrel.

Burned piston but rings are perfect. I will use them. Just clean up piston grooves , decoke exhaust port on barrel, no lip on barrel.


Can't wait to start work tomorrow , but my neighbour wants me to mow and edge for christmas..... that will pay for a few beers that I use for inspiration..........
speedy

I have little experience in pulling apart the engines like you have. 1. What do you use to de-coke the piston crown and head and is it realy vital to do it at all?
2. what is a proper method to remove the old gasket without digging into the metal in the process. I recently tried doing it with a used razor blade on an old powertorque and found it a frustrating experience. I ended up resorting to rubbing the head on sand paper mounted on a sheet of glass to remove all traces!
3. Do you need a torque wrench to tighten the head nuts or is there a rule of thumb method to tightening coreectly, including the sequence?

G'day Speedy and folks,

If the carbon deposit extends down the piston skirt like that, the rings are knackered! Despite what thickness they are - they can lose their spring tension too. For the little that they cost, just replace them.

In addition, by far the best tool for scraping carbon out of ring grooves is a old ring broken in half, with the end ground to a chisel edge.

For scraping off carbon, you need a tool with a bit of length to it, to make it easily controllable. So a razor blade isn't the go at all.

Something like an old wood chisel, for scraping the gasket remnants off flat surfaces, works well.

And a flat tool, with a square ground edge, for piston crowns and such - I make these from sections of power hacksaw blade.

I'll put up a few pics, if you like.

Speedy, what's the serial number stamped into the RHS of the crankcase? That lower half crankcase has the integral bottom seal protector, which is later than 1971.

It's engine no is 02002343 and VI on the other side of the engine.
Nad mowerfreak, I'll do like Gage said.
speedy

Scrapers [see above], and a small fine wire brush wheel in an electric drill are the handiest tools for this job. Yes it is a necessary task, as if the carbon builds up too much, it can crack off in chunks and cause damage. Pre-ignition can occur from hot carbon, as well - it usually happens when the carbon is thick, and the surface rough.
Scraper/s,as mentioned above. BTW, lapping the sealing surface of the head using fairly fine [400-600 grit] wetted wet & dry paper, backed by sheet glass, is an excellent way of ensuring that the surface is flat.
Well, it's best practice to use a torque wrench, but it wasn't specified by Victa until the 160cc engine came out [9-11 ft-lb, BTW]. The workshop manuals for the 125's just say 'tighten evenly and firmly'; see this Victa workshop manual excerpt: https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/pages/V...icta%20Workshop%20%20Engine%20Manual.pdf

If you don't have a suitable torque wrench [those sold for car work are difficult to set accurately at these low torque values], use a fairly short spanner [say a ring/open end combo], or a 1/4" drive socket wrench. This will help to avoid over-tightening the nuts.
The tightening sequence is straightforward; do them on the diagonals, i.e. like this:

G'day folks,

Well, the plastic carby says it's 1975 or later, and that number format makes it 1977 on. That's as close as I can date it, without a model number.

The model no on the air filter cap is MN 332A9 if that is original.

thanks
speedy

Hello Gadge,
I had a spare set of rings and comparing the two I can easily see how the ones from the mayfair have lost their spring will be putting the new ones in.
speedy

Gwtting things together, rebuilt decompresor, and carby it was missing the small spring between the two things inside...... a new big o ring and looks good.
Tried a repair on the muffle, may save $30 as the warden doesn't like me spending money on my hobbies.....
Buggered a barel gasket as I didn't use two pieces of wood to res piston on.....
Get one tomorrow.
speedy

Is that a sealing layer I see under that metal plate? Did it need more stuffing inside? The muffler off my 125 has it missing where the gases shoot in. Is that normal?
Thanks for sharing those useful tips tips Gadge. No longer as angsty about pulling it apart.

It's a piece of head gasket, might help. I didn't fill it with anything, might put a couple of those metel scourers in. You need that gasket where the muffler meets the manifold.
Yes you learn a lot here.
cheers
speedy

Fixed that missing rod with a cut off bolt.
It's coming together

speedy

speedy, what is that bolt for?

Thatd be where the muffler clips hook onto

of course, silly me

Put it all together, good spark, fresh fuel getting to plug, compression, wouldn't fire.
Tried to check timing 1 eighth inch before top dead centre. See in the pic there is not much adjustment of the plate as the holes are ound , not elongated as I have seen on another 125. Try again today.
Now the pull start doesn't grip so I'm just using the easy starter......
speedy

Got the timing right and put an orange needle valve in as the other one was sticking. Runs well......
Only now the easystarter loosened the flywheel nut and it flew off in the grass .......... somewhere, but I'm happy with the engine now.
merry christmas to all
speedy

I did a ladys lawn up the road, it went perfectly, wet and long lawn. Plenty of power with the flat lifted up a bit and razer sharp blades.
I'm still in trouble with the misses though........
speedy

I mowed my lawn, wet and think, it went well.Never missed a beat.
I used that Aldi $10 rust paint with inbuilt primer, 1lt Killrust is about $38,,. makes things easier.
Lost the pullstart as it just slipped, but an old school pull start with a rope works well.
Happy and safe new year..
speedy

I like it Speedy, and it'll cut anything you put in front of it.

I presume you used the Aldos paint on the engine cowl? I have a tin of the black German made rust paint that I will use on a pair of terribly corroded handlebars. Of course, I will go over it with a wire bush mounted on an angle grinder first.

I think it is important that these 2 strokes are salvaged from the scrap bin because they are on the endangered list of becoming extinct from now forward as production of them has ceased. These are the best grass cutting machine ever built, you can cut your lawn with a Briggs, but if you want to cut grass you use a 2 stroke, and Victa built the best 2 strokes

Yes Mowerfreak I used the Aldi paint on the cowl. It's good stuff, like an epoxy paint doesn't seem to melt in petrol. I have been soaking rusted parts in half molasses and half water for two weeks and all rust disolved. Molasses is cheap 85c per litre at an ag shop. I am trying alloy and copper as well.

I salvage them because I can get them going and can use them and then the warden thinks some should be sold.......
The ones I do the most work I like to keep..

cheers
speedy

Can you show the finish of the cowl up close? Used a brush I take it?

Yes I used a brush, could be better, but it's a good paint. I did my boat trailer and vice..


cheers
speedy

It looks really good. Who needs spray paint?

Yer you have just got to watch Aldi and get it when it's available, in black, white dark green. $10 a litre, can't go wrong.
I gave the mower back to the family who gave me a whole lot of stuff.....
cheers speedy

I have a tin already. Still waiting to open it up. Good to see how it looks.