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#97650 11/04/19 01:25 PM
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I was looking at this pic on Gumtree and I can't work out how this works. I guess it does but I can't say I have ever seen one before. What I would like to know is how does this motor work, from what I can see it is a side valve motor with the carby and the exhaust both on the same side. Can anybody explain to me how they have done this and then the second question, Why?
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G'day Norm,
Well, these L-head sidevalves have both valves on the same side of the bore, as you know. grin

Carby and muffler on the same side is usual for the horizontal shaft L-heads, but has also been used on many vertical shaft models.

The most commonly found example of this setup in Oz, was the old Kirby-Lauson LV and VK series push mower engines, back in the day. Then later on, Kirby-Tecumseh and US Tecumseh engines.

Also commonly found on the bigger [over 5 hp] Briggs vertical shaft L-heads, that used Flo-Jet float carbies, as used on ride-ons.

As to why it's done, basically to reduce manufacturing cost.

It costs more to incorporate an intake crossover pipe in the design; but it's necessary to do so, with fuel tank mounted diaphragm carbies on vertical shaft engines. Briggs have just continued this practice on their later float carby L-head verticals, e.g. the Quantum series.

AFAIK Tecumseh never used a tank mounted diaphragm carby setup on their L-head verticals, so they just stuck with the 'same side' configuration.


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Hi Gadge, never really thought about it that much, I must go and have a look at the Tecumesh pile I have out the back. I never even look at those just pull them off and throw in the pile, I do remember that the carby on those are on the left hand side, just can't remember bothering to look at the exhaust

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It's a Tecumseh Formula 5.5.
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Certainly something to be avoided

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Tecumseh aren't too bad Norm, give them a service , clean the carby and adjust the mixture screws ,they will start first go.


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Hi guys,

I'll second that Maxwestern as I've worked on a few in my time and their carbys normally require a quick clean out and then they fire up first pull.

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Ok maybe I should look a bit closer at the next one I end up with but most that I get seem to have carby bits missing (obviously because the carby was playing up) and as the ebay carbys for them are over $20, just not worth my while so they end up in the scrap pile


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