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GML is there any chance you could get me some detailed pictures of you handbrake setup for me?

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Thanks Cyberjack I was going to ask you to move it myself but i forgot.

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yes mate will do in the morning,no probs

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Thank you Very Much

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these old machines are sooo interesting,keep's us keen

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dead right

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there is an old red on gumtree down here for parts i think the seller is /was a member on the forum,you may be interested i have been thinking about it but dont really need any parts,check it out on melb gumtree

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yeah ive seen it, we drove to Victoria with a trailer at Christmas but i wasnt aware the price have been put down, otherwise its just to hard to get it up here.

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you can see in the picture that that there is a large pulley inboard of the frame on the drive side. This pulley has visible grooves cut into the inside tapered edges that leads me to believe that the brake may have been very similar to GML's setup but instead of engaging on slots in the disk the piece of flat on the end of the handbrake rod just pressed into the inside of the pulley?

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Or, is it possible that maybe there was a short belt that ran in the pulley and pulled tight onto a 'fixed' pulley on the brake lever ?? Dunno, I'd have to sit down and look at the geometry to see if that possible but it might explain the use of a pulley?

A look at Lewis' setup might solve the puzzle

Cheers,

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I think that the pivot stub for the lever is for too close for that to happen, its only about 60mm above and to the front of the pulley but you have more of an idea about these things than I do.

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Its actually about 12 or 13mm from pulley to stub

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Originally Posted by greenfielder
......... but you have more of an idea about these things than I do.

Not at all! Was just kicking the dust smile

You are probably right - especially if there is evidence of wear in the pulley that suggests a bar of the like has been in contact

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the wear is very concentric ( if that's the word) around the sprocket side of the pulley suggesting that something had been running it it or the brake was engaged while it was driving. I will try get some picture tonight. Pictures of Lewis's machine would probably solve a lot of my queries.

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If my thoughts on the brake handle are correct it will simple to make a new one as it only has 3 bends.

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Greenfield time again, just removed the little G40 and the bonnet in preparation for removing the very rusty deck bolts. I will endeavor to get some more pictures tomorrow when I resume work on him. As a side note has Mr Lewis been online in my absence?

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I would say Mr Lewis was on holidays over Christmas and that is why he was able to spend some time here.

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I keep on forgetting to take pictures but i removed the front axle and deck yesterday, bits of greenfield are covering most of the workshop now.

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Here are some pictures i just took showing the deck and engine. Are the stickers for the G40 still available and is bracket arrangement on the deck similar to any other newer models or do i have to reproduce those bits as well? any help would be greatly appreciated.


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G'day Greenfielder,

The deck mounting was one of the things they changed a few times in the very early years.

Your rear stay bar is mounted to the deck via a ninety degree twist in the bar. My early girl (and I assume gml's as well) have a welded bar attachment. Later they went to a welded cylindrical bush arrangement.

To that end you'd need to refabricate if needed to keep it looking original. Wouldn't be too hard for someone with a vice and an oxy or mapp gas torch.

No chance the rust will clean up?

Not sure about availability of Honda stickers but I'm sure silensmessor will be able to reproduce them from photos and measurements.

Keep having fun with the old girl!

Cheers,



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