OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Finding and Swapping Wanted ARCHIVE: Victa Impala 2 parts needed

After a recent find of mine and being able to pick up a Victa Impala 2.
I decided to clean and make sure everything is present and correct.Only to find things were not as they should have been.So due to this I'm now needing to find an engine and or a bottom crank case for a series 70 125cc with either the engine number stating with 4172 or 4173.
Also I need a catcher flap (What Victa called) the safety flap,which has the little hinged piece on the bottom.
As pictured below,but not with the black strap you see on the right.This one is for the VC-160 and VC-125's only.Just used that picture to show the bottom part.

You can check my 1972-73 Victa Impala 2 post for more info if you need it,and read how sad I am about this little problem.or click underneath here. 1972-73 Victa Impala 2

Please help if you can as these are very hard to find mowers and now I'm sad as it's not all original.
If you can help me I would appreciate that.
Thanks for any and all help with this mower problem.
Blumbly

OK I have to add something else,bugger it.It looks like Mr Modifier as been at it again and now has decided to weld a bar from one side to the other and then weld the handle bars together.So I will either need the bottom part of the handles or even some not so good handles that I could change and re-weld the pins so that each handle can move on it's own and not with it's friend on the other side.I'll add some pictures to show what what has happen after I take some.
So I will need handles off either another Impala 2 (Yeah right won't be able to find another),or equally as hard to find a VC-125 Mark III and or a VC-125 Mark II.I believe these are the only mowers that use these kind of handles. The easiest to find (but still not easy)would be the VC-125 Mark II.
If any one can help me please let me know.
The more I look at this mower the more depressed I get.
I just keep finding things wrong with it.

Just wanted to update this wanted list.I have had a generous donation from vccomm (Thanks man).Of which I got some handles and a catcher flap for this project.
Now the catcher flap seems to be the right one.The handles were from a VC-125 mark II of which I thought were the same handles.It turns out I was only half right.
Although they look the same there is a difference,besides the mounting for the catcher brackets,of which I have welded and filled and made them look like there not there.There is a difference between the left and right handle.The right side is the same,but the left hand side is different.Different style and different bends.It will fit don't get me wrong,but it's not going to look quite right.I'll take some photos and show you all.
Although I'm going to use them I will still be on the hunt for the left handle.Now from what I have learnt I believe these handles were only exclusive to the Impala 2's and Impala 4's.
Although I have prepared the engine I have ready to go,I'm still chasing the correct engine with the correct number.
If anybody can help please let me know.

if it is the left side thats bent , hehehehe that might have been me too getting the little trinket off of the base got a little heavy handed but it would straiten i thought ?
sorry mate , was the only one i had still the base here too they came from not much left on it now though

No vccomm it wasn't you I'll take some photos and you'll see it was the way the left hand one was made.It will become clear when I stick the pictures up.

OK I hope this shows you what I'm talking about.The ones in the grey primer are the ones off the VC-125 Mark II.The green ones are the Impala 2's.


So as you can clearly see the two bottoms ones in this picture are bending in the opposite direction,and the top two are identical.

This is them sitting on top of each other.They are all facing the same way,but bending in the opposite way.

The top grey one has the flat side facing us,but all the other ones have the rounded side facing us.
You can see why I can't use the green ones as some fool welded a large rod through them that's why the holes are so big.

This is the VC-125 mark II's handles on the Impala base.Just note where the flat surface is compared to the rounder area of the handle is.Pictured here in the red circle.

Here you can see the Impala's handles with the flat surfaces facing together and the rounder part away from each other.The VC-125's don't go that way.
In-fact that's how they are on the VC-125's,except the Mark III.
I guess the only ones to have this handle set up is the Impala 2 & 4's and the VC-125 mark III.Which is going to make it very difficult to find one.
I know to most people this seems like a silly thing to have to bring up and want for it,but it just isn't quite right or how it was originally.
The only picture I can find of a new one is this.

Now I'm not sure how these were done,but I was fairly sure they were taken from photos and then the colour added,and as you can see in the picture the flat sides are facing each other and the rounded parts away from each other.Which is not what the VC-125 handles do.
Help me please if anybody can.
Please though don't wreck a VC-125 Mark III for it though just sell me that hole mower.Yeah I wished.

Why cant you drill the pin and reverse it? And add a new pin...

If you say that the bar is just a mirror reverse,will that not sort it?


Or weld the holes in the green ones and repin them...

Sorry I can only see from the images, but it looks like a fairly easy sollution....or do I have it all wrong?

Cause once the pins are out I'll never get them back in.There not screwed in it's some type of rivet.The bar isn't just in reverse it's bend completely different to the others.

Ah ok,I thought you meant it was just reversed.

Just offering suggestions.


If you can secure a more common set of vc bars then you could remove the rivets, fill the holes, then redrill to suit the rivets. Countersink the outer bars, plug weld the rivets then linish....? Sounds complex but a fairly simple repair.

Good luck in finding one

Yes I know what your saying,but there just weird rivets.There not pop rivets they look like more like a backwards pop rivet.I know that doesn't make any sense but I don't understand how they have been done.Like you said I'd need another handle to pull it off to get an understanding of how it works.

looking at one here seems they are sort of spot welded/fused on and i tried something like removing before and ended up using a thinnnnnnnnnnnn cutting wheel on my 4" grinder shaved them off then braised back on , all a tad much though huh

I'd really like to know how the pins were actually put on to start with.

More than likely spot welded, If they dont protrude through the other side.

The alternative would be a captive rivet passed through the hole before the tube was pressed. The pressing additionaly holding the rivet in place.

Maybe a tad much VeeeCeee, but when one cannot be sourced, then these methods become fairly good options.

Id have no hesitation in removing the rivets via hole saw,dressing,fitting in the existing holes on the original green pair and welding in, with a final linish. 30 mins work Id reakon.

I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing.I'm talking about this piece here.

Now you've got me interested if you have a way of changing this and making the final product look the same then I'm listening.If it's going to look like a botched up job then I'm not doing it.I'm just very fussy that way.I restore to make it look like it did new.I'm not restoring just to use it.
If it can't be done right then I'll have to wait,but if you know a way please help me to do the job.It will be very hard to throw out the handle and then find a way.