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Folks just a question about the earlier types of this particluar unit. I notice that the latest versions are two speed, is this the same for earlier/all models?

Just wondering, for those that have looked or worked on them, how does this work? Is there a gearbox or a fancy pulley system?

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Seems as though the early ones are single speed. The one I looked at had an 8hp Briggs side valve vertical crank dated 1986.

After having owned a Rover heavy duty 8hp slasher with a horizontal motor I like the design of the Greenfield better. Much lighter to manoeuvre and easier to lift the front end. Castor front end makes direction change far easier.

One negative on the Greenfield is the blade engage/disengage is located on the cutting deck.

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Would you mind posting some pictures, Aldo? I think Greenfield slashers are not all that well known, and we should record what information we can on them.

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Some pics of a IPD I am looking at,

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Let me know if there are too many pics. I know when I search for stuff pics can be valuable for sourcing spares.

Thsi machine isn't too shabby. I dont know how, I guess many years of use but the metal shroud which covers the head over the spark plug is just solidly caked with grime as if it was submerged. I need to pull the head bolts to remove the shroud. For once I have found a machine that appears to have had an owner who serviced the air filter. The carb internals are spotless and all gaskets, plates and seals are intact.

Deck has two cracks and the front jockey is pretty shot.

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Thanks for taking the trouble to do that, aldot. Nice pictures, and because the mower seems to be complete and decently maintained, as you said they should be a big help to anyone trying to figure out what various bits should look like. Would you mind posting the model, type and code of that Briggs please? That will give us a year as well as engine details.

Is the choke operated by a connection to the back of the carburetor? The operating lever is normally on the front, as shown here circled in red:
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(From page 56 of 239, Briggs and Stratton Service and Repair Instructions, 1984.)

Can you clean the cylinder head fins with a high pressure washer just by taking off the cooling air cowl, without removing the head bolts? I'm not claiming that you can, but I'd be inclined to call it poor machine design if you can't service the engine without disturbing the head gasket. Briggs has cleaning those fins on the list of items to be serviced regularly:

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(From page 12 of 239, Briggs and Stratton Service and Repair Instructions, 1984.)

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You can take the cowling off without even disturbing the air filter or fuel tank from memory, 2 bolts on the front 2 on the back and pull.

These old things are pretty good, I had one with a 11hp honda on it, I also had a little seat on wheels that attached to the back to use it as a ride on. No photos though as I didnt have a digital camera at that time.

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The two speeds is actually refering to 2 different sized drive cogs, one larger for fast speed and one smaller sized cog for slower speeds and you have to manually change the cogs.
The design for the newer versions is pretty much the same as the older versions, not a lot has changed.

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Thanks fellas. Grumpy the choke on this version operates off the throttle. Full throttle activates the choke mechanism.

Joe the blower housing does lift off as you mention but the crud is behind the cylinder top cover and the barrel/cylinder shroud.

Hi Scott in reference to the speeds I was looking at the Greenfield site an they say the 2 speeds are lever activated. The earlier ones like mine are altered as you mention. I spoke to a dealer this morning.

I had to remove the cylinder shroud to get rid of the gunk because it was too thick. For the head I just poked some wire down behind and hit it with compressed air. Grumpys suggestion was good but seeing I was working on it I didn't want too much water about.

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The dirt amongst there was oil soaked so I thought perhaps the head gasket was leaking. In fact it was as 5 head bolts were very loose. I retensioned all to 165 in lbs. I sealed the dipstick base as leaks annoy me and more of my OCD showed by bonding lino strips under the deck cowl as it rattles badly when idling. Hopefully it will quieten it down.

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New fuel line and a new spark plug and I'll give it a run toward the end of the week.

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Grumpy the engine details are not complete but its a 193702 built in 1986.

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The dreaded reciprocating Synchrobalance once again. I dislike that mechanism. However if that one has lasted since 1986, it is giving decent service.

I had thought I'd look up the Illustrated Parts List (need Model and Type), and also see which Briggs plant had made it (need full Code), but neither is important.

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I must apologise to Scott Brisbane. He was in fact correct regarding the two speed being via a drive cog change. There are no two speed gearboxes. I was talking directly to Greenfield this morning and that question came up.

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Grumpy I finally got around to the engine details. The purchase of this mower coincided with things going a little haywire on the home front so I gave the forum away for a while.

Model 193702 type 0141-01 code 86072811


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Thanks Aldo. Here is the IPL:
http://bsintek.basco.com/BriggsDocumentDisplay/Z6nptCVJ1DajI.pdf

Here is the Operator's Manual:
http://bsintek.basco.com/BriggsDocumentDisplay/msozHP-K_ny7tH217FzoPu.pdf

Obviously it was made on 28 July 1986, in Plant 11. However I can't tell you where Plant 11 was - it is one of the many that no longer exist.

Comparing the pictures with the illustrations in the Operator's Manual, it seems to be an I/C.


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