OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Collectors Corner Identification of Particular Machines Victa Model 4 Automatic Specifications

seen these 2 on ebay and one looks like an auto but numbers dont really match as per your specs here? Ac 66284 looks pretty old and crappy original? the other one has the number 11870 with 1AAA before it
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/191084374696?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Hey Gizmo...The auto may have been once but yeah engine no is incorrect. Both serials belong to either late model 5 s2 for the ac and model 5 s3 for the 1aaa. Id buy the auto for 30-50 but not the other one...I love the look lols,rotomo top hat and even a scott.bonnar 35 front wheel and a really nice lean lmao...good spotting gizmo

tried getting it going today no spark soon as i give it a tune ill do the lawns

Welcome to the forum,Suziegaz

This really is a sight for sore eyes!A Beautiful Original Automatic example...amazing condition as is the M5 S3.

I wont ask to many questions on how and why you came across this,but if your willing,this forum and many of its members would love any info and images or any history relating to Your Auto(or dare I ask If one day it might be possible for you to take footage of it in full operating conditions).

If youd care to share it would be a benchmark for our archives.


My appologies if I ask to much,but not many people get a chance to see many Completes if at all,Especially a Seemingly fully functional Automatic.

I hope you enjoy your time at ODK and thankyou for your contribution.

Regards Mal.

Suziegaz, that is one nice mower you have there, I would love to know what the engine number was, I would guess after 113,000 but probably not much after due to the big bottom handle bar clamp bolts. And as Blue has said any further info you want to share would be great.

Hi suziegaz,

And a warm welcome back to the ODK Forum.
Wow! What an awesome, complete Auto. This is the first time I have laid eyes on a machine with both the front and the rear flaps fitted and in the correct colour scheme, and thank you for sharing the pics with us.

I, too, support Mal and Jonesy in asking if you would be kind enough to share some more pics from different angles particularly the carby set-up....this will help our members see the differences that the Auto embodied and would be great for this important archive.
Any information you can give us will be very much appreciated.

Thankyou also for sharing the pic of your Model 5 Series 3 with us, we don't get to see many of this model in beautiful original restored condition either.
Looking forward to your future posts,

116539 older pic. Replaced a few things nos wheels .caps. Stator plate .cutting base. Snorkel. Air filter . Blades pull handle wire ...... all NOS few Brocken parts on front fap repaired have had going before engine has had new bearings seals new

Thanks for the images,

She looks pretty much spot on for serial:) great score with the nos wheels and pull knob boot.
Milperra made yes? Or a new sticker? Your running the very early handle bar spanner clip bolts too. A beautiful accurate example mate, very impressive Automatic. Your M5 S3 is seemingly running a concord sticker from the image, may I ask the serial of this one if you wouldnt mind. Its running the AM wheels yes? Be damn blessed to find 2 complete nos wheel sets:)

Nice to see two examples in such wonderful original complete condition! Good on ya!

And on a lighter note...don't forget to put your fuel line on...lols

had a uncle work for Anthony Horderns in garden section moved on to sales where he sold serviced repaired victas in the late 50ties he finished around 71 collected a lot of parts got most of my parts of him in the early 80ties..... wheels on the special are after market have some good original wheels could put them back on the pic i just posted is year old ... the fuel line is on

Ha ha yes you said it was an old pic:)

Cool story....I was also fortunate enough to pick up many Nos items many years ago I used on my original collection. But alas I sold them all off many years ago. Have re started restoring in recent years and I still cant adjust to todays ridiculous prices, thankfully I never sold much of my old parts. But with the exception of the billi cart, mk1 fan and a complete auto( both skirts and the front flap assy) my collection is almost done up to sheerline 9.

what about 156532 is that to high for a automattic

G'day fellas!

Gman, 156 thousand would be too high for an auto, but is right for the last of the model 4 Specials.

So fellas, I've decided to call it a day on restoring an Auto and will concentrate on a couple of Rotos for a bit. As a result of the downsize, I've decided to offload my Automatic collection beginning with my NOS front flap I've put it up on ebay for a price that's quite a bit lower than I've been offered, but it's still a damned expensive thing I admit. I'll see how it goes, I guess. If it doesn't sell I'll just pop it in storage for a decade or so until I can find the time and resources to do it justice

One last contribution for the record, anyway. There was a bit of discussion as to wether the Automatic ever had a V code. According to this, it looks unlikely:

Totally Agreed on the serial unkie, getting to close to model 5....Omg! selling the auto Gasps*:( As for the Vcode, it appears All model 4 and 5 variants fall under the V 5 Code,this would include model 4 auto 4, 5 s1, 2, 3.... this I think is comfirmed by the date 57-60. So yeah while it doesnt have its own Specific code, i think it still belongs in the V5 range.I have found this applies to at least two other models, one being the utility variant that runs alongside the sheerline 6. It utilises the same engine and cowl assy as sheerline but with utility base. This model does not have its own Vcode, yet exists and is an accurate model in the Victa range. I guess since its demise was so quick it never recieved an exact coding? This might explain why the model 3 rotomo has Vcode 4, yet was produced after the model 4 automatic.....its my assumption that Vcode 4 was originally assigned to the automatic until its demise,then reassigned to the model 3 to keep the sequence until.the model.5 was released as Vcode 5......

Hi Unkie,

It is sad to see you selling your collection of Automatic parts....but the upside is that someone else may be able to complete their restoration through your efforts.....

May I add my many thanks for your contribution to this valuable archive, mate.
You may be aware that this thread now has received over 140,226 views and climbing fast....

Unkie, I would love the front flap but you are about 3 weeks early selling it, for me anyway, oh well hope you get a good price for it, and I recon Blue is spot on with the V codes, and I recon the bent tommy bar spanner on your auto Suziegaz would also be correct as it has the later slit in the front wheel adjuster.

As far as im aware Jonesy the straight bar really only came on very early autos. Remember the small hex end of the spanner wasnt just for the height adjust bolt, it was originally designed to relax and adjust the handle bars and skirt bolts while the other was obviously for the plug. The use of the larger nut on the height adjust was for extra load tension to lock the adjust whell nice and tight so they didnt have to tool up a whole new spanner with a 1/4 end...the curved ends were really made to stop people losing the bar:) but your dead right gaz's serial is correct for the bent ended spanner. Preferably I find the straight bar better as its easier to turn the height adjust wheel. This handle apart from the obvious of mounting the spanner and removing the nuts was actually written in an advert for "ease of use for women" to operate the height adjust! Lols

Yeah,I'll see how it goes, mate. I certainly wouldn't part with it for any less than I've listed it at. I'll probably be relieved if it doesn't sell lol!

Thanks very much mate, I've thoroughly enjoyed it. That view count is something else! I guess it confirms there really is genuine interest in this model out there.

LOL, sorry mate. You wouldn't have room with all those stationary engines you've got anyway, right?!

So Boydie just shared some images of his un-restored Auto (#120875) on another thread. Interestingly, a couple of things are of note:

1)It has unpainted axle housings
2)It is running the first type starter.

Looking back through the threads at other examples, we can now confirm that they stopped painting axle housings between #118746 and #120875.

In addition, the first style starter (without the pin) was used up until at least as late as #120875, with the intro of the second style starter no later than #122228.

Looks like the posibility of losing My Precious has got me all fired up again

And also Unkie it's starting to push the amount of auto's with flap remnants and complete into the early 120's