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I needed a couple of 626Z bearings to fix a ceiling fan that's become a tad noisy. It wasn't an El cheapo fan as it had a Fasco motor fitted and they are generally repairable.
I checked in with one of our local bearing suppliers and the best they would do is $4.10 per bearing. I said pass on that and checked out the prices on the ol bay. You can buy 5 for $2.98 and that's delivered......... WTF !!!!
Now as I have two of these identically same fans installed in the house the pack of 5 was a no brainer as I'm going to do both units and make them quiet again.
The bearings that were originally installed had the name Singapore stamped into the metal shield and as such these were no SKF' NSK etc big money units.
So how can these businesses survive when charging these sort of exorbitant figures and generally sourcing their products from where else but the same place we can now buy from ?.........Asia.
Even now with the added GST on overseas internet sales these local businesses still don't want to even try to compete, they're just happy to sound their own death knell and have Mason Gray and Strange move in eventually and auction off the lot, which seems to being happening on a weekly basis nowadays.
It's no wonder this country is heading where it is..................down the gurgler.
Cheers, BB.
PS this thread could've also gone into the "Tech Talk" sub-forum under "International Movement Fixing Community" topic but I've decided to give it a life of it's own here in "Off Topics" as it slightly differs and is a tad more political I feel.
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Hi BB, there is nothing that can be done about this now, the internet has changed the game forever and the local retailers have no way of competing or even getting close. I still have a mate who has been repairing Triumph motorcycles all his life, slowed down over the last few years since he closed his shop and moved up the bush. He has a computer but doesn't know how to use it apart from checking emails, so when he wants parts he either writes to the supplier or rings them to order parts. He pays top dollar for his bits but he is not going to change. Anybody from a slightly younger generation just hops on the computer and is able to source parts from anywhere in the world at the click of a button. This was not an option 10/15 years ago so this will continue to chip away at any business that is trying to make a living , paying the rent and all the other associated costs of running a business. Where this is going to leave this country and many others is hard to predict, but we are constantly told we must adapt to a changing world, I would just love to know how I can adapt
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We have to change our value of money and reduce our standards of living, it's that simple I feel
I live a 24 Hour lifestyle, but every now and again I seem to fall asleep, well at least that's what my wife tells me.
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Great story B_B -in a morbid sense! I have my own example from yesterday. I recently bought a second hand Sony Handycam from the 2000s and discovered it had the wrong leads to connect it to the tv for play back. The end that goes into the camera is specific to Sony so I called Jaycar a a starting point. Man in phone said they don't carry proprietary cables like that and said to try Harvey Norman or Camera House. Guy at CH said they are too old a model to carry that cable and gave me a number of a business in Melbourne who specialise in proprietary stuff for older Sharp and Sony products. They were shut by Friday at 5pm so I looked on their website only to find they no longer had that cable available but had a close substitute that would work. When I clicked on the link to it, I was dismayed to find it cost $30 for what amounted to an RCA cable with a unique end. I thought EBay time. It didn't take long to find an aftermarket version of the exact cable I was after for $4.70 incl postage from a Hong Kong based seller. Only thing, I have to wait about three weeks. Oh well, I will have to be content to record footage for now.
Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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MF, it is not going to change, many people now have the internet so you can buy anything if you are prepared to wait.The retail industry in Aus is never going to be able to compete with this
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I think you hit the nail there NormK. I still prefer to get stuff from so called bricks and mortar retail as long as it is not more expensive by a high percentage compared to online.
Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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If its bearing prices you're looking at, the front wheel bearings for any early rover, R10 imperial, Price from the local mower shop was $16 each I can get a pair off ebay for 16.95. Still expensive, but Half the price...
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At least when we made things here, there were somewhat fewer middle men - now we have the original company, the importer, the wholesaler, etc down to the end shop. Add to that freight and it is just being priced out of the market.
It is when you see thing like line trimmer primer bulbs - buy 10 for $4 on ebay, but this is only slightly over the price GA apparently charge suppliers for 1 bulb. They then sell for $9 in most cases.
I needed a few of the rubber grommets for the trimmer tanks - I had a few choice: Spend $12 and get one down the road Spend $5 and get one from over east or spend $5.80 and get 5 grommets, 5 fuel filters and 10 fuel lines (long inlet and short return) from china direct.
As much as I like to support local business, there is just no way I can justify it - I needed 5 grommets and spending $55 on cheapie ryobis and homelites plus fuel line, filters, diaphragms and plugs is not going to happen
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Sadly everyone wants to do very little in this country and be paid very much while in other countries with a lower standard of living they will do a lot more for a whole lot less, it's that simple I've always said. The sooner some more of these money hungry morons hit the wall the better.
This country along with many other western societies needs a huge reality check, as does our Government.
The saying "the best form of welfare is to get a job" is just moronic as they are all going OS.
I live a 24 Hour lifestyle, but every now and again I seem to fall asleep, well at least that's what my wife tells me.
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This country has for many years been run by fools, manufacturing has collapsed and now the dairy industry is following this wipe out, with dairy farmers walking out in droves. Spending billions of dollars on public transport projects is great for the blokes working on these projects as they are making squillions of dollars for little effort.This is not going to help getting this state working again or to keep any industries alive. I see little future for this country while we politicians thinking whats in it for me in the short term and not giving a second thought to what they should be doing to get this once great country going again
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This country has for many years been run by fools, manufacturing has collapsed and now the dairy industry is following this wipe out, with dairy farmers walking out in droves. Hi speaking of dairy, I bought some 2 litre milk the other day from Aldi, who are meant to have the cheapest everyday prices right? Well their 2 litre full cream and lite milks are now $2.39 each. They are still only $2.20 each at Coles and Safeway (Woolworths). So the price of milk is rising, is any of that extra money now going to support the farmers?
Zip a dee doo dah, zip a dee ay, another trash picked Victa, hip hip Hooray!
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Converse, I think the 20 cent increase is a supermarket con job, very similar to the plastic bag removal, supermarkets have not had to do a thing except removing the plastic bags they have saved from memory about $77 million each. With the milk, too little,too late, farmers have either gone broke, or are so far in debt that they will never recover. I guess we will be importing milk from NZ before long. Australia is such a dumb country
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The part about the plastic bag fiasco is just a slap in the face. First it was about being friendly to the planet and removing plastic bags that were being paid for within the price structure of the groceries.
Then they removed them and sold us those Green material style bags to reuse over and over again, now whe you walk up to the checkout the first thing they say to you is not Hello, but did you want a bag ? and then have the audacity to hit you up 15 cents per "Plastic" bag.
So what actually changed ? prices never dropped when the first lot of bags stopped, so they were then making more money with no expenditure and now their making even more because dumb idiots actually pay cash up front for plastic bags.
As you said Norm, this is such a dumb country run by Smart TV's and Smart phones which are programmed by dumb idiots for dumb idiots who are being lead like lambs to the slaughter house.
I live a 24 Hour lifestyle, but every now and again I seem to fall asleep, well at least that's what my wife tells me.
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G'day NormK and Bonnar_Bloke,
Yes I agree NormK I have noticed that the price of both store brand bread and milk has been creeping up over the last few months.
I think Aldi has thought the farmers are now getting that extra 20c, we might as well also pocket an extra 20c per milk sold. Won't be long until Coles and Woolworths up the price of their milks also.
I know a person that has worked in the plastic bag industry here in Australia and you'd think after all the bag bans how they hell are they still in business here. Those old grey plastic single use bags used to cost about 1c per bag to make. They were all imported from Thailand and China. I have heard from people in the industry that those so called "green" reusable bags create more air pollution per bag to produce than the old grey bags ever did.
Also as I have mentioned once before I have noticed that everyone is just buying those 15c reusable bags at the checkout then they are all getting thrown out with the houshold rubbish into the plain green landfill rubbish bins. Yep that's great for the environment just replace the grey bags with the now thicker white bags in landfill.
Then here in Victoria they are saying that most of the recycling will end up in landfill as it can't be processed. Oh looks like everything is on track for a bright green future..lol
Yes I'm not one of those sleepwalking zombies with the latest smartphone and everything else that goes with it. What really scares me is because of these new age zombies and how the big banks are now pushing for all payments to be made via these damn smartphones and other new devices. We are all sleepwalking into one day becoming a cashless society! Just think about it. I always use cash wherever I can. It's the one independant thing we have left to be able to buy and sell things from one another without "Big Brother" watching everything we do.
Cheers!
Last edited by Converse; 29/07/19 02:42 PM.
Zip a dee doo dah, zip a dee ay, another trash picked Victa, hip hip Hooray!
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Hi Converse,
Guess what ? I've got bad news for you................I think that within 10 years we will be a cashless society and then every cent will be accounted for and the Government will just be able to reach in and take when they want to.
The sad thing is that all the youngens just love all the tech that's coming in making them feel really cool with their dumb phones, well one day they'll realise that they have absolutely no privacy and everyone will know them by a chipped number.
And we thought the Australia Card was going to be an issue ??
Cheers, BB.
I live a 24 Hour lifestyle, but every now and again I seem to fall asleep, well at least that's what my wife tells me.
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And just to prove how corrupt the plastic ban was, I was listening to a researcher last week, somebody who monitor supermarket sales and trends and since the one use bag was banned there has been a huge increase in the sales of plastic bin liners. Supermarkets have had another win
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The criminals (supermarket chains) of course, don't pass on the savings from not supplying one use bags, and double dip by selling those two to three use bags. There should be hand cuffs with the names of executives of these ripoff merchants inscribed. Australian businessman are worse than American businessmen in unscrupulous practises. A disgrace of a country.
Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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Australian businessman are worse than American businessmen in unscrupulous practises. Don't give our businesses ideas. The government is saying inflation is near zero yet I am seeing quite a bit of price hikes lately mainly due the stupid tariffs that are imposed by tRump. He just don't get it that consumer is bearing these taxes and not the companies themselves. I do see several of my parts suppliers raising their price on me but are expecting me not to pass along the increases as they hold the suggested retail prices the same. I am not going to sell items below cost which they are expecting me to do unless I order more than I need to get to the free shipping levels. Personally I just wish people weren't so lazy. Here we can recycle these plastic t-shirt bags. They are so lazy that will not will put them in the trash but rather just throw them out the vehicle windows. Then of course we got to deal them all over the place and rescue those animals that haven't die yet from getting trapped by them. Even my mother was bad to throw out trash before we got home. I fussed on her about it as the trash was right by where I parked when I got home. Yet she complained about others doing the same thing. I got several the reusable bags even they were thrown out. I do carry in all my plastic bags, both the t-shirts and many of my parts bags to the local Walmart store. I grew up when paper bags used and I still them occasionally which I either reuse or recycle them too. So far the local stores are not charging for the plastic bags but I see it coming as it is spreading across the USA now. Actually the price of the reusable cloth type bags prices actually have gone down here. Sometimes I even get them free new. The only problem I have with them is the handles are to long so I got to shorten them so they don't drag the ground as I carry them to where I am going. I reckon I got long arms and short legs. LOL. I was looking for pants yesterday and all I could find was 38 x 30 for the shortest inseam. I currently wearing that size with the cuffs rolled up nearly 2 inches.
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Australian businessman are worse than American businessmen in unscrupulous practices. G'day Mowerfreak ... fair call there. It appears a self-regulatory code is insufficient here. Legislation is needed! ------------------------------- Jackp.s. I just read AVB's brilliant USA comments. Very insightful of how global commerce works. Although I feel AVB needs mudflaps on his underpants.  [Maybe with that 'backoff logo']
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Jack, when it wet here on my place I could use something like snow shoes to across much of my lawn. And if really rains hard I need scuba gear or a small flat bottom boat. And Sorry Jack no place for mudflaps to attach to as no underpants. I did however recently lost a boot crossing the lawn so it is definitely muddy at times. The backoff logo Yosemite Sam with both guns drawn on the mudflaps I have seen. ![[Linked Image from onceuponascreen.files.wordpress.com]](https://onceuponascreen.files.wordpress.com/2018/11/yosemite-sam.jpeg)
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