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Hi there, I inherited my Grandfather's Rover Shredder
Engine Code: 82101310
Model: 95213
Serial number: 2830503

I was told by a service technician expert that I need to replace the existing Connecting Rod with another Connecting Rod (part 390459020).

Any ideas where I can get this part from???
Thanks in advance.
Steve

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Could we have a bit more info or a photo of what it is you need

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I will try and post some pics. Thanks for replying.

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Hope theses photos help. [Linked Image]
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Am I to assume that the motor is still assembled, if so how do you know it needs a new con rod.

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G'day Norm,

Picture 2 is a copy of the quote the service technician gave me after he pulled it apart.

He said he can repair it (at AUD $800), but he is unable to find a replacement Connecting Rod.

He said if I can get my hands on Connecting Rod (part 390459020) he will be able to continue to fix it.

I was told that these shredders are worth fixing. What do you think?

My grandfather had it for about 30 years.... (I used it once and it kicked the bucket).

Thanks for your assistance.

Steve



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$800, you must be kidding. You could put a brand new replacement engine in it for half that.

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6 hp Chonda will cost under $200

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Yep, replacement engine is the go here, for sure.

From that quote, the valve guides are worn and the valves damaged, the crank big end would need to be ground to fit that undersize conrod, and the bore and piston are damaged. What all that adds up to is, 'not economically repairable'. Even as a DIY job...

BTW the part number for the conrod is just 390459; the description is 'Rod Assy. - Connecting (.020" undersize)'.
The Parts List is here [PDF download] http://bsintek.basco.com/MDEXResultsPages/PDFDisplayPage.aspx?fileName=Z6nlxAVJ1DajI



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Thanks guys for clarifying things. Your comments are unbiased and honest which I appreciate.

Any suggestions on what I can replace this Rover Shredder with ?? I need it for domestic purposes and it will get a work out so I need something reliable and able to be purchased in Australia.

Thanks again

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a Greenfeild Peacemaker would be the go,
and still Aussie made!!


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No real need to replace the whole machine, just get a new engine fitted.

The blade assembly mounts directly to the engine PTO, so it's just a matter of getting a new engine with the same PTO shaft size to make it easy.

If you really want a new machine, the Greenfield Piecemaker and Deutscher 650 models are still Oz-made, and decent quality and design.


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Thanks for the advice... I'll look into it.

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Thanks, I want to get an Aussie made one.

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Hansa chippers are another Oz made machine that would be worth considering - they have a very good rep.

Cox Mowers also make a couple of models, but their smaller one doesn't get good reviews at productreview and like sites.


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Thanks Gadge,

I'll keep the Hansa in mind, especially now that I missed bidding on eBay for a Rover Shredder (like mine, but in better condition). The owner claims that the chipper had only been used six times, for an hour each time. The photo seemed to substantiate this.

It sold for $500.

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Looks like that one's come back up on FleaBay, and there's another one as a 'Buy it Now' for $435 just now, on the eastern side of Melbourne.

So it doesn't look like it will be difficult to find a good used Rover for a reasonable price.


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Gadge I can only assume things come back up on fleabay because the buyer doesn't make contact, I have a reverse situation at the moment, I won a mower fairly cheap and the seller won't contact me. I have paid for it so I have done my part, if you don't want something to sell cheap, don't start with a low start bid

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Norm, what I have seen is sellers phantom bid from another username to drive the price up and sometimes get left holding the bag when no one over bids them. You can click on bid history and see who has bid and then look at their bid history as well. If you find a bidder that has never bid for anything other than items from that one seller you can be pretty sure it is a dummy account they have set up to bid from.

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Sorry for the thread hijack but I think cb2si has given up worrying about his con rod. Trev you seem to know your way around this stuff, I have over time watched the seconds go down with me being the highest bidder, the 0 second comes up, I'm holding the highest bid and then a message pops up in the left corner of the screen saying I have been outbid. There must be a program that allows you put in something like you will go x dollars above the final bid at auction end

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c2sbi before swaping motor check cutting blades first
i serviced many these chipper it have 3 chipper cutting blades, common falt blades break crack around blade mounting bolt hole
seen lots with broken blades
one blade cost over $100 some times need replace all 3 this machine or any this type you need to check blades first or can be to dear to repair
is very good machine but for light duty only people but big branches logs in them then break blades bent crank ect cheers2


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