OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Repairs and Maintenance Questions On Ride On Mowers Questions On Ride On Mowers Frames Ride-on Replacement Engine - seanw

This one comes with a 2 year warranty, not sure about the others

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/171807143038?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Whats wrong with the engine you have Norm?
i always reckon that unless a briggs has a leg out of bed, then it would be my first choice to start with.
as for 'out of service' ride ons, check with mower shops , as often they will have dungers that
people dont want to spend money on,( because they think they can buy a new one cheaper), so leave it with
the shop, we've had many in with good engines , ebay isn;t the only place to look.......
peole have long bagged briggs for being a crappy engine, etc, etc, well i can tell you matem that in the face of these crappy imports, they are going to look bullet proof!!!

leg out of bed
am i correct in assuming this is leg out of bed. or are you hitting on norm?

Squizzy I have a Briggs that is locked up, I haven't looked at it, it was running well,no smoke or noises. I also think it has stopped charging and it needs that because it is not running a magneto, I converted it to coil ingition if I get a chance I will pull it apart tomorrow and see what has happened. I'm not sure the motor is worth spending the sort of money on it that it is going to need. I also have one in a Greenfield that I fixed up for a mate up the bush, it still goes well but is going through a fair bit of oil. It doesn't foul plugs but I would like to fix it up for him.

not in a public forum Norm....
yep, that's a possible leg out of bed, usually caused by over revving.
if your motor is using oil but not smoking, sounds like the bottom seal is shagged.
briggs motors dont have to be exxy to fix. a set of rings. valve grind and a coupla gaskets
will usually do the job.

Squizzy, no leg out of bed, this motor was not smoking or using oil, it has just stopped. In reality none of this stuff is worth repairing, I just do it to fill in time. I spent probably between 5 and 6 hours today fixing a mates self propelled Honda. He took it to his regular mower shop and was told it needed a new gearbox $400 for the box and $100 labour.He asked me if I would look at it so I pulled the gearbox out, looked fine, put it back in adjusted the cable up, still nothing, then I discovered that the drive shaft had broken the sheer pin.As I said I messed with it for many hours(couple of broken studs,the usual sort of problems) and shop has to recover these hours so this mower with a good Honda motor was in reality cost prohibitive to repair. Sad fact of life these days.

Sean, the 'leg out of bed' description actually refers to when a busted conrod pokes a hole through the crankcase, as it lets go.

exactly Gadge, a broken rod through the case, under the starter usually!
problem we have these days is people want the cheapest option, and it's never been truer,
you only get what you pay for.....trouble is, often you dont even get that...
BUYER BEWARE

Squizzy, any idea where B&S motors are built these days, I guess there is a good chance they come from China as well, seems like everything else does. The reason why it has never been truer that people want the cheapest is because there is now a lot more cheaper options out there.With the internet people can easily see what people all around the world are paying for things and in Aus we get screwed over on so much stuff. I wanted a stator for a Honda motorbike, a dealer here wanted over $500 for it, I got it delivered from the States for $125

People are always pointing out how much cheaper stuff is in the States but don't take into account that their minimum wage is only about $9 an hour and they only pay for a gallon what we pay for a litre of fuel so a lot of their overheads are much lower. You've got to compare apples with apples.

You are right Trev, and this is why Australia is on the road to going broke, Button started this many years ago by removing the tariffs from the motor industry and now we have shoved down our throats that "free" trade agreements are in our best interest. This is a one way road to financial ruin for a country like Australia. A new free deal recently was we would sell 300,000 tons of gas before one cent in tax would be paid by the offshore country. This country is run by madmen
Sorry my mistake it is 300 million tons and Chevron is laughing at us

http://www.theage.com.au/federal-po...-wealth-for-decades-20160412-go4kay.html

thank you all for the input. i have just recieved word that the owner just bought this
26hp husky for 1500.
honestly thanks fellas i feel i have waisted not only my time but your time aswell.
i liked the first engine replacement option that was put forward here. easy simple fix.
ho hum
cheers
sean

What is he doing with it, harvesting sugar cane? 26HP sheez, make a hill climb car out of it I reckon.

Sean, with a bit of luck he will leave it with you and you can either put another motor on it or just sell it as it is

All of B&S' side valve engines are now made in China, as are their smaller [push mower sizes] vertical and horizontal shaft OHV singles. Vertical shaft SV's went to China ca. 2000, as did the last of the smaller [to 2100 series] horizontal shafts in 2012.

It's a bit hard to be definite about the E and EX Series push mower engines, as they do make SOME models in the US, but these are mostly different to their offerings on the OZ market.

I note that they do claim that the 725EX is US-made, but as it's the sole US market side valve offering, I have my doubts. It could just be assembled there from Chinese parts, for that market only.

Of their larger engines, the Vanguard vertical shaft singles are made in the US, and the Vanguard horizontal shaft singles and all Vanguard V-twins in Japan [using some US-made parts]. The Japanese factory is a joint venture with Daihatsu.

Norm, i reckon we are being sold a pup with the cheap replacement stuff thats flooding the market
these days, A rebuilt Briggs is always going to be a better option than a crappy new replacement, regardless of cost.
trouble is people are fooled that new is better, they over look the quality and backup completely.
just as an interesting exersise for you.......go into a mower shop. or where ever they sell those new engines and have a look at them up close. then tell me what you think...
as for Briggs being made in China, the country of assembly has to be listed as country of origin on any products now days,
and what a lot of companys are doing is sending locally made parts to a factory they have in China for assembly because the labour is cheaper, i know Makita do that with some of their products, and maybe Briggs is to. but from my understanding, they are still proudly American.
and not a waist of time sean, you created much good descussion , and now you should see if you can end up with the old mower for your time, i may even be able to source you a good running Briggs to repower it

thanks fellas.
squizzy so you recon after it was run with no oil for who knows how long, you all seen the damage. new crankshaft 250 odd new conrod 130 odd plus whatever else. do you recon these motors are that good that to rebuild will leave you with a superior motor to the new briggs for 450?
I dont recon he will give me the old one, i cant get the one back that i lent him to do the job while he uummed and aahhed. HAHA. no he is a really nice fella who knows little about motors. and is learning.
thanks again fellas

Squizzy, we are on a road to nowhere these days, everything has become a disposable item, buy something use it till it plays up and just get another one, everything is cheaper to replace than repair. In Melb we are now struggling to find a place that does small bore reboring, as the people running all those engine rebuilding businesses for the last fifty years get to retirement, they can't sell the business, so they just vanish. I was discussing this with B&B engines 12 months ago about repairing car heads, he said it was no longer worth doing, cheaper to replace it with a new head from China. We are a dying breed that want to keep old stuff going and we have no impact in the direction the general population is headed. A mate of mine has a gardening business and he wanted to know what sort of mower was available if he needed a new one in a hurry some time in the future. He went to the Red Shed and they couldn't believe he was still using a Honda HRU215 and a HRU216. He sees no reason to change as long as he can still get parts for them. At least the Honda motors outlast most of the machines they are fitted to