OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Repairs and Maintenance Questions On Ride On Mowers Questions on Greenfield Ride On Mower Frames Greenfield 5XL

Thanks prd, this is my third Greenie and it did not look right but I sort of figures the way it was setup it was what they had copied. I have worked out how it can be done with the parallelogram to make it work but there is no indication that there was ever any mounting/pivot points fitted. I have started moving in this direction and have made up the triangles and pivot points. I will get some pics of the deck repair which has been reasonably well done, so whoever did it had a fair idea of what they are doing

....or perhaps I'm wrong. There's a thread from 'NeedaFixin' in March 2012 that shows a similar setup to yours.

Trying to work out how to create a link to this

It begs the question, why did they change what worked and do it like this on this model and no others?

How the design was supposed to work I have no idea, it was all too rusty to bother trying to get it working. It had a spring fitted from the adjuster arm to the bolt on the same arm that I have no idea as to what it was supposed to be doing. Anyway most of that is going in the bin. Even with the plate repair on the deck it is still quite acceptable weight wise and with a coat of Hammertone I think it will look ok. It is still fully functional so I have no issues with that. maybe grind the welds up a bit

Yup, I give in too. Not completely sure how it works either.
I was going to make the comment that the repair could be significantly trimmed to reduce weight but if it's not too bad then well and good.

I'm curious to see what you do with the adjust lever positioning and geometry to give good operation and keep it clear of the step through area.

Looking at this I remember that when the parents went mower shopping in the early eighties to replace the old rover with a shiny New Greenie they were initially looking at a step thru model but ended up coming home with a tractor (yes folks, the one I still use ) because mother didn't have the strength to adjust the deck height on the step thru.

Once I get it set up I will put up some pics, it is far less complicated than what was on here and from what I have fitted works well and hopefully will adjust easily. To me the rear engines are a better simpler machine and easier on the steering without the weight of the motor sitting right on top of it. Have to admit the steering on these is not for the weak armed. I have often thought about how to make the rear end a single wheeler so the steering is much easier, and then if you were using it on hilly country you could lock the other wheel up so you have both wheels driving again. Interesting that your mother couldn't adjust the deck height and if it was this model she was looking at I can understand why,crazy idea

This is the trial fit with a piece of timber between the 2 old and new pivot points, This is in the fully raised position.



This is the fully lowered position, I have to repeat this on the other side because I can't put a shaft right through because the forward/reverse pulleys get in the way

That's a neat little solution. I hadn't thought of something like that.
I'm curious about where that pivot is in relation to where the parallelogram will be mounted and its distance from the centre of the cutting deck - with regards mechanical advantage. Just wondering if it's a bit too far aft?

It is going to pick up on the guide that was fitted to the deck, you can see where it was in the unpainted section. You could be right in that it might be a bit far back but I can just move the side guides back till they line up

Yup, I get what you mean. As you say, you can move the whole thing forward if needs be to get the balance better. That's the beauty of welded steel structure - Just about anything can be changed

These kinds of projects that give the brain a bit of a squeeze are a ton of fun. Enjoy!

Deck down


Deck up

Works like a treat, now why didn't Mr Greenfield do it like that in the first place, lot of work to build this one but so simple to set up in a factory making many of them. Quite possibly this poorly designed adjuster caused sales to be low

A thing of beauty Norm!

I now understand that there is a front mounted deck point as well! My incoherent comments on the weekend did not account for this.

I've discovered some photos of a stallion (from the nineties I guess an so later than yours) that has a more conventional height adjust. Seems old Theo got it right in the end.

The thing I did notice on the Stallion photos is that his has slotted holes and the usual Anti-scalping wheels to allow for deck float. I'd send photos but I'm finding it a little frustrating at the moment. Refer query in seperate post.

Again, full marks for the ingenuity!

Cheers,

Thanks for that, I just sold a Stallion a couple of weeks ago and after explaining to the buyer that they only had a park locking brake, no actual brakes as such, (not heel and toe either)they have a gearbox, forward, neutral, reverse. From his postcode I realized he lived in hilly country, he said it would be ok but within a week he wanted me to fit a disc brake to it because he ended up having to crash it into a tree to stop it. At least all this stuff keeps the brain working and keeps me out of the house and this makes my wife happy. As long as I get the money back that I spend on them is all that matters. I'll probably spend about 3 weeks working on this one. I went to get belts and blades for it yesterday from the mower shop and when I told him it was a 5XL he nearly fell on the floor and uttered something similar to, you have to be kidding

Looks like I have had a whoopsy moment with my design of getting the deck to lift up and down, somehow with the original design the deck was able to move back and forth to adjust the deck belt, I think. Oh well no big deal I'll get around that with some type of adjuster directly to the belt. Still a much better design than the original, I'm sure old Mr Greenfield must have been on holidays or long service leave when the design department slipped this one through

G'day Norm can you just run an idler on the back of the V belt? Perhaps even under spring tension.

Slash, that was my plan earlier this morning but after a bit of modification I was able to use the original tensioner set up. I am now super happy with the whole thing,just have to paint the bodywork and it will be a great little mower for years to come for somebody.I have spent over $350 in parts and countless hours on it so it would want to be good. Wish I had some grass to cut with it

Sometimes it's not about the money spent but more about the fun along the way. Having said that, you don't want to sell it just to break even and get nothing other than some fun and some headaches for your efforts.

Slash, every morning I dig myself into a headache and spend the rest of the day trying to get out of it

You must enjoy it. I know I really enjoy repairing or re engineering things.

Slash, you have to have a reason to get out of bed every day