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I have been told that there are 3 different sizes of those cup things. i only have 2 sizes

This is the only motor i have with the really long sparkplug am i correct in assuming i cannot use the shorter plug??
now i need to work out how to delete a post.
thanks
sean

correct on the plug there mate , unless you like a spark to be hidden up a dark hole all lonely and scared . i thought only two types but maybe the 18 style was smaller for rope starters ? but honest i never really looked as if i need to i change the whole lot at once keep it matched up .
ALSO be carefull not too use a long in a short reach hole . too much penetration and damage will occur

Hello Sean

Thanks for moving your starter question to the correct forum.

For the wind-up starters, they're only two types.
Yours is a Trip-Release (not an Impulse).
Service Guide No21 covers that:

https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=67519

In your wind-up photo, I can't the pawls are not visible,
suggesting that the alloy hub the pawls sit in is cactus.

Hope this helps.
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Jack

thanks fellas. managed to get a starter that works on it. but now have another problem. one week ago this mower started first go. today i started it again (with drill and socket)started after a few turns then ran like a pig got the revs right up then down thenupndownagain then idled it for 5 mins sounded real sick then died. now i have that much compression i can not even get it to turn with the drill.

fluid in the wrong spot is not a good look i presume
I am thinking i put the wrong blade plate back on maybe?

something in the back of my brain is telling me i have stuffed this motor?
Sean

looking like maybe you flooded it badly . so badly you flooded the crankcase ! pull the plug out n spin it a while , see what come out , what carb you got on that ? stuck float or no needle ?

G3, mate. pulled plug spun nothing came out, plug back in and it wont turn at all

your sure your using the right reach spark plug ? silly i know but if you did try spinning with wrong one then yup , look at the gap is it closed up ? torch down there n have a looksee thread length , bright metal on the piston where it hit ?
hard to know from here but its either hydrolocked or the wrong plug and its hitting

Hi Sean,

I would be seriously looking at the carby. Needle must be stuck and flooding (Badly). How many times did you pull it over with the spark plug removed? (Fuel tap OFF too) if it's flooded that badly you'll need to pull it over continuously for a good minute or two to to clear the fuel.

When it did run did it fire from the exhaust? (Loud bang often confused with back fire) If this occurred it's because of fuel igniting in the hot exhaust. This would have been caused by too much fuel being pulled through.

If it was hunting (revvs up and down) in this case it's because it was getting too much fuel and not enough air.

All points to flooded in my opinion. Easy fix assuming it hasn't been forced and nothing has been compressed and bent ...

Good luck. Pete

dave i used the correct sized plug.
pete it sounded like it was firing late, timing out. i have no idea how to fix it.

i honestly thought i had put to light a blade plate on it. as i said it started sweet as a nut last week.
engine no, 5 6 71040 43

running it with the snorkle fitted ? some worse than others i found and wont run or start strange without it , but spin it up with no plug see what comes out .

sure the blade plate is tight too ?

dave the blade plate is really tight.
it is really strange, snorkel or not same result. i really recon the blade plate was wrong and i have ruined it.
first thing i did was put fuel in it as it ran last week. then looked at the blades seen they were cactus. pulled the blade plate off then lost it with the others while i played with another character. then tried to work out what blade plate and blades to put on it. so i think i may have really dodgyed something up. do waltons do refunds?

its the blade plate from a VC160 it has now , whats the engine from ? but unless its fouling on deck somewhere it should be ok too use .

uuuum you werent spinning it backwards by chance ?

never spinning backwards. massive amounts of compression. dont know what the engine is from. it would put my shoulder out wouldnt last week?

well not being great at the engine numbers , i THINK somehow you ended up with a vc160 setup on it , the only 160 i ever seen with a longreach plug n21 or b4es except for the corvette's and the like , but should be ok if its not hitting the deck somewhere or just change the plate .

so if you remove the plug it spins freely then back in a and locks up again ? and are you still getting fuel coming of all over the place ? had some i tipped over and got almost a litre out the plug hole after MR or MISS fixit has had a play flooded so bad not a hope they would run

Problem solved, well sort of.

Took of that light blade plate and put this heavy one on.
will only rev up when the snorkel is disconnected.

that controller was advertised to give you the control of a pilot. It doesnt.
Will clean the carby up and give it another wherl.
Waltons dont do refunds
Sean

Try soaking the throttle cable in WD40. If it's not moving well it could be getting stuck.

Pete

then make sure the main jet is allclear , and the carb body too all passages sounds like its a small blockage is all . you got tip cleaners and air ?
be sure not to move the govenor flag huh

I just re-read your post sean. Is that only revs up when snorkel disconnected from the carby? Is there maybe a blockage in the snorkel? would be a BIG blockage but if there is something disrupting the air flow that could cause your problem...

Other than that as Dave says - clean out the carby REALLY well. The g3's are a good carby but the jet can block up easily.

thanks mate as i have never pulled this carby apart and was hoping it would just work. will change out with a new snorkel. clean the carby and give it another go, it is really easy to manuver and cut with as it is light.
Sean