OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Finding and Swapping Rare Finds & Donations SCOTT BONNAR: Model 49 - Blumbly

Indeed.
you need to be clear, then, in the conversations you start!
I guess we're talking Villiers, not Kirby.

Awesome work there Jack that does show it there.I'm happy with that,but just for one small problem you'll see here in this picture below(It's not great)but you can see the fuel cap.To me it looks like it's a plastic one.It kind of looks like a series 70's victa cap.I know in the sales brochure it is the tin one.

Sorry to be a pain I just want to make sure that I'm going to put the correct one on it.
That parts page you have there is that in some kind of manual as I haven't seen that one before?
Also does anyone have one of those tin fuel caps as I just don't have a spare one at all?

As far as I know Blumbly at least a partial amount of 49s had a plastic cap.

Its true The tin cap was standard on torque major engines. SB being no exception, but Im certain SB had another Plastic cap at some point in the run as well. Maybe the last of the series?

Ill see what I can find in my brochures.

The tin cap will be the same as early Victa, just usually in white on most mowers, and red on SB:)

Either way, go with the Tin as its definitely correct.

Thank you Mal that would be very much appreciated.I just want to make sure I get it right as lets face it there isn't many of them left.

Nope there isn't....I havnt got a 47 or 49. Ive only got the Pretty brochures

No I haven't got a 47 either I'd love to have one or three though.

Hi all,

Out of curiosity this one appeared on ebay. deluxe 4 model (BS) with a plastic catcher...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Scott-Bonner-Deluxe-4-wide-cut-lawnmower-/321899964941

Pete

Thanks for that IHWS

These are great photos of a late Model 49.
One for the serious SB collector.
[Photos will appear as part of the record shortly]

Thanks for the info.
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Jack

Hi all and esp Blumbly,

Don't know this model mower but the 2-stroke engine sure looks like the Villiers I remember from our Rover Princess when I was young in the 70's.

In which case I can tell you our fuel cap was metal (no. 96 in Cyberjack's diagram) and painted the same bright orange as the tank. Underneath it was a small plastic shield which we were always careful to replace (no. 134- I think- in the diagram). The plastic shield had a lip to fit over the rim of the lid's thread so you had to make sure you didn't screw it down too tight. If I remeber rightly, you could also drop the plastic lid down into the tank if not careful, a real annoying job to get out (but aided by little-boy fingers, a piece of wire and an annoyed father at the time). Both items had a small pinhole for ventilation, if I remeber rightly the cap pinhole was in the centre and the plastic shield pinhole was offset. The best way was to fit the plastic shield into the back of the cap and then screw it on, to prevent it catching on the thread and being chewed up. Forgive me for a dimming memory, this was up to 35 years ago now...

Just my 2c worth (which rounds down to zero nowadays of course )

Pitrack_1

P.S. Oh and I think the metal cap had a thin band of vertical lines/ridges around the top rim for grip (bit like the edge of a silver Oz coin e.g. 20c piece).

All good advice there Pitracl_1 they did have the metal fuel cap,but there have been pictures of a plastic fuel cap as well.It looks a bit like the 70 series Victa caps.

so have both if there is 2 the same for same machine

I guess maybe due to having a few years run with this model.I really don't know why.

I wouldn't be surprised if they replaced the metal cap with the plastic one because the plastic one worked. The plastic part underneath the metal cap was a pain so the first thing you did was fit the metal cap without it... only (if I remember rightly again) to find the metal cap won't seal properly without the plastic underneath. So the first time you threw the machine around, the fluel sloshing about would start leaking from the cap.

The other small bit of entertainment for me was the pic in post "#68817 - 13/10/15 06:47 PM" above- I think the trigger was slightly different/stubbier on ours (and towards the back, near the fuel cap- yours may be mounted back-to-front). But that photo would have to be a static publicity shot, 'cos if the trigger's at the back then with the handle folded that way (for neatness of course) the black plastic knob actually obstructs the trigger from starting the engine- at least it did on ours!

Who changed the name of this subject it is suppose to be called SCOTT BONNAR: Model 49 in rare finds and donations not (Fual caps cont'd and wind-up starters)(of which Fuel has been spelt wrong).I thought only moderators could change the name.
Pitrack if you go back to the first page and look at entry number 68300 you will see the photos I've added and even though everything is close nothing hits and is all fully functional.You will see in the first photos I posted that the starter trigger was at the front.That was how I found it,thinking that everything would hit each,but after I turned it all around I found that all was good.So I don't know why someone turned it the other way round.

The subject is still as you described Blumbly. It hasn't changed.
The individual post was manually renamed by Patric by clicking on the 'Reply' button [try it!]

Only moderators can rename the title to a post.
I have renamed the particular post to conform with the title.

Hope this helps you.
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Jack

Hi Blumbly,

sorry if I upset you by resubjecting (ugh) my post. I was just trying to outline what my post related to, it's standard practice on other forums just to make clear which part of a thread you may be responding to.

Good to hear it (the mower) works.

Apologies for the misspelling, I don't have a spell checker in the editing box on my Android+Firefox device. I do try to proof-read, but things slip through.

Thanks Jack but not the whole topic was changed I changed it back,unless I'm reading it wrong.See if this works I'll take my name from the title and remove the capital letters to make it read Scott Bonnar Model 49.
That appeared to work,now the thread has a different name.
Thanks Patrick I knew that I just didn't know that anyone could change a topic name.

Yes Blumbly

That's how it works.
A user can change the name of their post (thread) but not the name of
the Topic (the series of postings).

It can be a useful feature - in particular circumstances.
Thanks to Patrick for reminding members of this feature.

p.s. I have just changed your post name to reflect the Topic name.

All very topical.
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Jack

Hi all.. this is my 49er it has a new old stock villiers engine it has a nice soft crisp note to it.. cheers ....

Hello Deviosi

That's incredible!
There must be a story behind a NOS Villiers engine...?
Some great photos there ... of the controversial petrol cap
and the early air cleaner.

Thank you for sharing this.
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Jack