OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Restoring, Customising and Modifying Victa Walk-Behind Rotary Mowers Model 5 - Hammertone Coral Red - seanw

hammertone coral red.

I liked the colour.
Question. if i give it a couple of coats of clear will it ruin the hammertone effect.
and as this mower runs, when i push the tickler will it ruin the paintwork when the fuel

goes spurt spurt?.
i hope i am correct in assuming i am working on a model 5 seres 3 and the cowl on the left is the right one for this mower.
Thanks
Sean

also would it make it more original with the rope starter or the recoil.
dont know why pics didnt work

photos not showing again sean .... its better if you leave it to cure a week or so , even then i still put a rag under anything that might spill , drip or anything on something i put time into

thanks for the reply mate.
so would putting a clear coat on it do the hammertone justice?
Sean

Hi sean and vccomm

I understand that the secret to hammertone is in the application.
Yours does not seem to have much of a hammer finish.

I'm hoping a paint expert can offer some advice here.
I'm useless with paint. I even use screwdrivers to ...

Cheers
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JACK

The Advice you need will be written on the tin...

Hammer has a moderate Sheen especially from a can. But from the gun, it will give more depth, making it appear glossier.

Your finish is fine for a base coat,but needs to be applied heavier for a better hammered finish.

Using a clear coat will probably cause issues,unless you let the base cure fully, and the clear is fuel resistant. Otherwise it will more than likely blister...


Im unsure what type of paint you used, so I cant answer your fuel questions. But as Before, if it doesnt cure fully, you wont have a chance of fuel spill causing damage.

Forget the clear, save your money...

And yes the Cowl on the left is S3.

Pull or Recoil starter are both accurate for originality...but since its Coral Red, I guess originality is not important?

Reminds me of an early Masport Colour...

Btw...What was the original post title?

Great advise mate, so if i leave it in the lounge room with the heater on tonight and give it a heavy coat tomorrow, it may look better? i am using white knight rust guard hammered finish.
the original post title i think was " I cant hep mysef".
Yeh i am a sucker for a colour i havent seen before.
Thanks mate

A bit longer Sean... But 16-24 hours is common. Just check your can


(VMans advice is sound if your going to clear or add another colour to parts like the 18 Flash...Id even allow 2 weeks when highlighting).

Usually you can second coat up to a couple of hours, but after this time it needs to cure before a second coat should be applied, otherwise the thinning content will blister the initial coat.

In the fist 10 mins to 2 hours approx,the thinner content will still be present and will allow the second coat to blend successfully, depending of course on paint type

Remember, Read the can mate, it will give you correct times, as brands Vary..

Trial and error is fine, but manufacturers recommendation is best

mal i will leave it for a week. mate you taught my dumbass stepkid my missus and I some paint advice we all found really interesting and wont forget too soon, the stepkid said " so thats what you have been doing wrong" she just laughed.
cheers man

Its all on the...CAN MAN!

They should make the WRITING BIGGER

Hi Sean

Can labels tend to be small and abbreviated.
I've found that the manufacturer's website can be valuable
and give more expert advice than what can be put on the can.

The White Knight website is really good and you can change the font size!

http://www.whiteknightpaints.com.au/specialty-paints/metal/rust-guard

Hope this helps.
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Jack

I let the sober team takeover.

Mal i bought a large magnifying glass.
Had to clean the rust out of the fuel tank with blue metal.
it works great.
Need a few wheels to make it look good though.
my plastic welding days are long over, and bye gee it hurt.
Hard too push without wheels but not impossible, drag it backwards.
ENOUGH

dont you have wheels on another one mate ? if on your daily just put newer model wheels on that one use the real ones for this maybe ?

paint looks a touch thin in places there too or is it just the shot angle

Ill swap you some nice wheels for...um.... Say an amplion base lols.

Yeah a bit thin, but not a bad try for your first hammer...:)

Btw whos clumsy mits poked the paint on the cowl assy? You the missus or the...Aherm....Dumbass step kid?

Just curious sean, do you have a bench grinder with a wire wheel?

Thanks for the reply.
Dave thats what i did with the wheels, I got another can of that paint today so will try my hardest not to make a bollucks of it with the final thick coat.
Mal yes they would have to be mighty fine wheels. yes i have a bench grinder and wire wheel??.
!THE POKE! it wasnt the missus or the kid but it was a dumbass.
Will try to keep my hands to myself next time
Sean

Hammer-tone paint can take up to 2 months to cure properly.The reason for this is hammer-tone used to be known as stonegaurd and was originally sprayed onto sill panels on cars to stop the stone chips.Actually if one was to follow it right back it was made to use on the space shuttle,but we don't need to go that far back.
I'm not sure why you want to put clear over it,maybe you should have got a high gloss hammer-tone,although I don't know if you can get it in cans.
If it is because you like the colour.I'd just rub it with 400 grit wet and dry sand paper (Using soapy water with it)until you get a flat dull surface and then cover it with clear.Just make sure you use the type of paint,like enamel. I'm assuming the hammer-tone is enamel based so you would have to use an enamel based clear.That would work and should be fine for getting fuel on it.

No, chose not to go the clear.
So should i leave it for as long as possible, before final thick coat or paint the final coat then leave it to cure?
thanks for the advise. just spoke to the old fella with that self propelled we may make a deal, with no cash involved, dont worry mal not the amp.
sean

had a space shuttle in 50's ? wow they hid that well

If you leave the final coat to long you will have to scuff the surface so the paint can stick.I think it's 24 hours after that the new paint won't have enough to grab hold of.Yes after that it will appear to work but around the year old mark could very well start peeling off.
Yes vccomm there are a lot of products that we use today were originally designed for space exploration.Like body filler (bog) was deigned as a lightweight body filler for use on the space shuttle,now widely used in the panel beating industry.Other things like microwaves first patient on October 8, 1945,but we didn't start to see them until the mid 80's.So yes lots of things were created long before the general public knows about it.
And that's all for today's history lesson.

thanks for the help, i am not planning on sending it into space.
By the way
CANT STOP THIS




HAMMERTONE.
last one with no flash, added it cause it looked cool
And yes i am looking for those pants
you know the rest.
ice t
Sean

Done







I hope this acceptable.
Whats the secret to doing bolts up when they have been painted without wreaking the paint
Sean

a piece of cloth in the socket or spanner works for me , or off with the lot and wire wheel a little shine is always a nice thing , looks nice though mate

The Hammered Finish in the First few Images is much better Sean.

Just remember to sweep your gun/can in a nice even motion, never stopping on the job until each side is covered. Paint each coat in a single run,top to bottom.
Let rest for 2 mins, turn then repeat the same action for the other 3 sides, this will give a nice even hammered effect. Never go over single sections as this will blotch it, recoat the whole side if necessary.

I think you've got it pretty good:)

Just some more attention to prep before painting, and youll get an even better finish.

As VMan says, bolts are better buffed cleaned plated or silvered.
Same with the axles and mounts. Attention to detail will bring much better results to the overall finish of your Machines

I reakon you've found your way Now Sean, this mower is IMO your best yet.

Cheers for the Images, and I really like the effort you put into your Hammered finish...

Blue...

OH you guys are too kind.
Another bag of info from the vman and HT6 and all the other contributers.
The help really is gold.
12 months ago i didnt know how to change a blade on a mower.
now i can open a spraypack with a screwdriver.

Thinking maybe granite textured midnight blue base with a fluro skirt and brown cowl with pink handle. its for her.
Would this do that model justice???
Sean

im still sticking with the avocado , but maybe just easy to remove parts . wheelcaps n top handles hot pink ? if its put to work , a snorkle and pink late model filter too .
just my 2bobs worth though

I read here somewhere that when i try to undo the skirt bolts they will break every time. so should i just whack the paint ontop of the rust?
No the pink was just plain wrong. going with pastel lavender.
When do you tally up your 20 cents worth
sean

skirt bolts on my later model are nuts n bolts so wasnt a problem , just replaced with nice stainless jobbies , im old , so when i tally it up is always correct weight .
the only 18 skirt i have didnt have studs , was bolted on so yes , they just were so old snapped with no pressure . kept the tabs and i will just get new nuts and bolts thread up so IF the blades try they cant touch .
try it in proper colours now you seem to be getting better at it , just go easy on the black paint sean , wire brush nuts n bolts , amazing the difference it makes or silver paint maybe .man you have come a long way good to see , as we said ages ago it gets easier

What VMan Said ^^^^^

"Green is Nice"

You have all the parts for a good restoration of a Series 2 plus toe guard.

I reakon your ready to do a real amplion base sweet original resto and do it justice IMO...

Its up to you yeah....Whatever keeps the passion alive.

what? It wasnt me, its illegal to use subliminal messages...lols

lads, thanks for that, i recon i will
practice on this first. i do like the hammertone effect but.
whilst looking for different paint i found some really cool textured finishes one looks like spiderweb.
Bye the way, what do i do with it now?
thanks again for all your support knowledge and patience.
Quick question, blade bolts are not reuseable??
Sean.