OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Restoring, Customising and Modifying Reel-Type Mowers MODEL 45 - 17 & 20 rebuilds

Hard to say xhall. Could be as much as 20-30 hours with an engine but there's always a lot of idle time waiting for paint to dry etc. The hardest part of the resto is hiding how much you really spent from your wife. Really these are simple well designed mowers and if you put them back together right you will hit few problems.

Some pics of progress. Need to flex the chain case a little for a better fit. Also posted a pic of the current running units we have at this point in time. Can post higher res pics as required.

Hello Mr Jones!

They sure do look purdy.
I particularly like the new bearing rollers.
A good idea using cutter bearings too.

I do have a question:
Is the roller tube interchangeable with an original one?
I ask this because of the issue of obtaining original roller tubes.

Supplementary question:
It would be nice to know that paint formula
If only you could remember that secret ingredient...?

Cheers and thanks for the update.
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JACK

CyberJack,
Same roller shaft as std but roller is oversize at 76mm. Hard to obtain std size of 70mm in a good finish. With plastic end caps and 70mm roller I can return to std but bearings in the front roller makes a better mower.
Paint.....I will return with the can to supplier and hope they can advise!!!

Thanks Mr Jones,

That's very helpful information.
Apparently shafts and end caps are available.
The issue is sourcing 70mm with good finish then...
It may be that your slightly larger 76 mm ball-bearing
design is a viable option for many restorers.

Cheers & Thanks.
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JACK

Hello Mr Jones,

Just wondering if you've forgotten about the request for the formula of the Apple Green that was used on your marvellous Scotty ?

This formula would help us all out immensely and save a lot of time and angst amongst all the restorers on our wonderful forum.

Cheers,
BB

Hi again Mr Jones,

I've just seen the last line on your last post which explains about the paint formula.

Sometimes I can't see the forest for the trees so please accept my apologies in that regard.

Cheers,
BB

How do rate the 6.5hp vanguard ? I was also looking at one of these for my 20" .

Hi Jim13,
Sorry to say I decided against fitting the 6.5 engine as I felt I may have been to much weight. The mower runs perfectly on 3.5hp and 5hp would kill it stone dead. The 6.5 hp may be more suited to a solid deck or a larger mower. Back to the paint! Protec advise the Hammertone 311 is no longer available so now its a hammerfin product. Have had a 500ml mixed and matched to the previous colour. It came out marginally darker but is close and is a much thicker product. Attached is the formula for 500ml. First item listed is the clear base followed by the tints.

Hi Richard,

On behalf of the ODK, Thank you so much for doing this as it obviously cost you a bit extra to have another 500 ml made up.

We shall keep this on file and recommend it to future restorers to use. It will be nice to have a standardised colour especially when none of the Adelaide paint manufacturers have any records on file dealing with Scott Bonnar in the 1970's.

I've exhausted all avenues here in SB's home state of South Australia so your colour formulation is as close as we'll get.

............again from all of us Model 45 enthusiasts at the ODK, Thank You very much.

Cheers,
BB.

BTW, I betcha that name's not on the guys birth certificate. "Cool Drive"

Hello,

Can I ask for some clarification on this paint colour please. I have looked into "Hammerfin" and it seems to be a product by Toplne Paints in SA. I can't seem to find anyone in NSW that knows anything about it. Can anyone add any light here?

Hi Scott,

Go to the Protec Paints Website and look at "where to buy" and then put in your postcode and it will come up with all the retailers that stock Protec products that are all manufactured in Gilman, South Australia.

Cheers,
BB.

Hi BB,

That was the first thing I did. The Protec site pointed me to Autowest paint supplies in my area, called them and they had no idea what "hammerfin" was nore were they interested in finding out. Even sent them a copy of the mixing card from this thread and I could still feel his stair on the other end of the phone as he glazed over with boredom while we were talking.

Hi Scott,

Yes it's the same ol same ol that happens with wholesalers setting up retailers and then another company comes along offering more GP to be made and thus the original supplier is just forgotten about. This is also the fault of many suppliers not having Reps any more to keep retailers eager and keen to sell the product like it was in my time when I used to fly into Victoria, Western Australia and NSW along with looking after my own state of South Australia every month to keep on top of things or it would all fall apart.

As I'm in Adelaide I could contact Protec and see what I can organise from my end, but rest assured that they won't send a small consignment (1 litre) interstate as it is classified as "DG" Dangerous Goods and the fines are pretty big if you get caught smuggling DG stuff in the cab of a truck. I've been through all this trying to get a particular paint from Dawn Tools (Hammer tone Green for an SG vice) in Melbourne, now there's a pain in the backside company to deal with and they are wondering why sales have dropped off immensely. Some just don't get it do they ?

Cheers,
BB.

Thanks BB. I intend to call a few more NSW distributors of Protec in the new year, perhaps I'll have more luck.

Hello all, just seeing if this thread is still going. I've been doing some Reasearch into the colours on the piece of paper, I've rang my local paint supplier, and also the dealer in Melbourne, they cannot find a lot of those tints, seeing if anybody has had any luck with the mixture.
Cheers.

This may help- Hammerite Green is the one

https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/77434/Re:_Model_45_-_Just_a_Little_W.html