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Hi all, Im going to be rebuilding our old Victa push mower. Im hoping some of you can help me get some info on it first. No one in our family seems to remember when it was actually bought(owned from new) and i was hoping someone can tell me what year they think it is? Is there a way to find out the year model from part numbers etc? How do you all go about redoing the chassis? Paint, powdercoat, or other? Can the stickers be replaced, or is this not done on rebuilds? Where is the best place to get any and all parts for these mowers in Aus? As you can probably see from the pic, theres a couple of things that need doing.... ![[Linked Image from i663.photobucket.com]](http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu358/GTRwilson/Mobile%20Uploads/20140609_095252_zpse3zsxghj.jpg)
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alot of the part listing just say for 'early' or 'late' motors. Are the all essentially the same or something? Does my year model not matter in this case?
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Hi to unknownVicta, and a warm welcome to the forum.  we need one of our Victa gurus to chime in here and give you some information on your machine. On the top of the plastic air filter cover or adjacent to it, there may be a white sticker with the Victa code on it. This can give information on your model....can you find it? Once again unknownVicta,  to OutdoorKing. 
Please do not PM me asking for support. Please post your questions in the appropriate forums, as the replies it may receive may help all members, not just the individual member. Kindest Regards, Darryl
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Last edited by Gizmo; 10/06/14 01:35 AM.
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Hi to unknownVicta and gizmo,gizmo, that you very much for that research, from those links we can say that this machine is a (approx) 1997 Victa Commando, Powertorque engine and G4 primer bulb carby. unknownVicta, the white sticker we are looking for looks something like this:
Please do not PM me asking for support. Please post your questions in the appropriate forums, as the replies it may receive may help all members, not just the individual member. Kindest Regards, Darryl
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thanks for all the help so far fellas. Where on the mower can that sticker be found?
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Usually that sticker is found on the air filter housing that is mounted on the handle bar. This is the black housing that should also have your throttle control.
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Had a look, its long gone. Unless its on the inside or something? Does anyone know if the chassis is alloy? if not, then what? Looks like mine has had some smacks on the nose haha. Going to have fun working it back to straight...
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Those stickers do wear away over time. They are not very robust. Your chassis is a pressed steel base, certainly not alloy. You should be able to panel beat it back to shape without much trouble. Any cracks or rust repairs can be done with a mig welder.
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The sticker wont tell us much more than what we already see in the picture. My guess would be it is a CS201*(where the Asterisk could be any letter, i believe denoting the year or model era). The real question is what exactly do you want to do with the mower, freshen it up to use as a daily driver, or a full resto to keep as a mantle piece. To what extent do you want to restore it; ground up nut and bolt restoration, or a repaint, a thourough clean and a once over to make sure everything is functional. Depending on what you want to do, and whats damaged and needs replacing will determine where you start and end. We can also determine the year of your mower as it's cast into the engine block directly underneath the carby, although the carby will have to come off in order to see it. As for decals im not aware if they're available but a call to a reputable Victa dealer, or preferably a Victa gold dealer, will determine their availability.
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I wouldnt say every nut and bolt resto, but not far off it either. Will be replacing most things i imagine. It will still be used, but rarely. I live on acreage and use my Victa ride on for most things. Could actually get away with not using the push mower anywhere if i had to. Its more of a resto to its former glory, get it looking and running brand new again. It was bought for my father for a fathers day gift, and he has since passed. The sentimental value is really the only driving force in restoring it.
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Started the tear down this arvo. Chassis in great shape really. No rust holes etc like i was worried about. Will probably finish taking apart the chassis and send it off to get sandblasted, and then powdercoated/painted a nice bright red. And get the underside of it sprayed with Rhino Linings. ![[Linked Image from i663.photobucket.com]](http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu358/GTRwilson/Mobile%20Uploads/20140611_144510_zpsyfmlmcgd.jpg)
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If you wanted to date the engine as Bigted said in a previous post.On the engine block where the carby goes you will see some cast numbers as well as some that have been stamped.The date should be there.
Here for a good time,not a long time.
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good idea, thanks.
Has anyone put a bigger piston in these? Or shaved the head to bump up compression?
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Had a quick look. I can only see one marking in that area and it says "D 98" Is this it? I was looking for something longer, like 5-10 digits like most engine/chassis numbers on anything.
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That's the number you're looking for. Its a 98 model. You wont find a serial number.
As for paint or powdercoating it's your choice.
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Got the base fully stripped and ready for sandblasting and then powdercoating. ![[Linked Image from i663.photobucket.com]](http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu358/GTRwilson/Mobile%20Uploads/20140613_135537_zpsewb9sppn.jpg) Who in Brisbane has had something of this size sandblasted? All the places on google focus on car bodies and heavy machinery etc. First one i called started at $500 and goes up. Im affraid that sort of cost out weighs the whole build. Ive got a small trade tools one, like this: ![[Linked Image from tradetools.com]](https://www.tradetools.com/images/1068S_3.jpg) Never done any sandblasting myself, not sure how it'd go.
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I've done a few of these but never sandblasting and powder coating. A good scrub with a wire wheel on a grinder, a rub all over, etch primer, hi-fill, another rub down, undercoat and then finish off in 2 pac. they come up a treat, and far less expensive than sandblasting and powder coating. Here's a few pics of some i've done in the past. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/uploads/usergals/2014/06/full-6430-16879-picture_338.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/uploads/usergals/2014/06/full-6430-16880-picture_368.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/uploads/usergals/2014/06/full-6430-16881-picture_332.jpg) ![[Linked Image]](https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/uploads/usergals/2014/06/full-6430-16882-picture_422.jpg)
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