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#47720 28/07/13 06:39 AM
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This mower has been sitting at my sister's place for a few years. It always looked daunting because it was a little different to the mowers that I tried to fix. The snorkel is cracked in a few places and I have never been able to get a spark on it. I assume that it's got a condenser/points, will I need to take the flywheel off it and how hard is it to do so? Also need a snorkel how hard are they to get? [Linked Image]

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I'd guess the points just need a simple cleaning to get a spark...

And for a snorkel, Cant you basically you use any sort of hose?

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all victa parts will fit it if there from a fullcrank , but i think it would be a 125 ? plug not in the middle of head ? points are under flywheel yes and almost any victa snorkle will fit , good old machines though have one here too , still starts and runs sweet and easy . not really worth much but i did see one go for i think $180 on ebay a while ago !!! and it said it needed work too

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How can you tell from that angle it's a 125cc vccomm? Sorry but I think it could be a 160cc as well.Could be either I guess.Also I'll have to disagree there with you vccomm
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yes and almost any victa snorkle will fit
I know a VC-160 and such alike won't fit.Heaps more of an angel to the other way,but should be able to find one surely,maybe.Can they still be able to get new ones?Strongly agree with vccomm of where the ignition is.Now your original question,Is it worth it? Well I guess I would put it into 3 category's. Which comes to what you want to do with it?
1.To fix and sell: I don't think you'll get a lot for it.
2.To fix and mow lawns:why not.
3.To fix and put in a personal collection: I guess that's up to what you want in collection.


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i dont know for sure yes , but as its identical to mine i think it could be a fair guess . sorry i didnt make it clearer though

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Originally Posted by Blumbly
How can you tell from that angle it's a 125cc vccomm? Sorry but I think it could be a 160cc as well.Could be either I guess.Also I'll have to disagree there with you vccomm
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yes and almost any victa snorkle will fit
I know a VC-160 and such alike won't fit.Heaps more of an angel to the other way,but should be able to find one surely,maybe.Can they still be able to get new ones?Strongly agree with vccomm of where the ignition is.Now your original question,Is it worth it? Well I guess I would put it into 3 category's. Which comes to what you want to do with it?
1.To fix and sell: I don't think you'll get a lot for it.
2.To fix and mow lawns:why not.
3.To fix and put in a personal collection: I guess that's up to what you want in collection.

Thanks for the comments guys. The question I posed was based on roughly how long it would take to get going and whether a snorkle could be easily found as I don't think this one can be repaired. Not sure about selling it, just the challenge of trying to get it to run but I don't know whether I want to spend more than 6 to 8 hours on it.

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Well it would depend on what is wrong with it as to how long you want to spend on it.I understand where your coming from there.(It's like I have just picked up a Victa 4 stroke.Now somebody has painted with an oil based paint with brush.Now it won't run,so I have to work out how much I can get for it,then work out how long to get the paint looking right,how long to get it running and then take that from what it's worth (carry the 1).I can see that this one may not be worth the time and effort).So back to yours so yes I know exactly what you mean,however there is the fun and the learning more about them to consider.You should be able to find another hose,I just don't know if you could find a new one any-more.I don't think you would spend that long fixing it though,you could change the whole ignition over in much less time than that.At the end of the day I guess it depends on whether you want to do.That's the more important question.I know you'll work it out.


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Blumbly if the hose is the same diameter as the new victa power torques, then you might be able to find it at your local mower shop. I know we keep a long roll of power torque snorkel in stock, and you cut it to suit the customers length. I can't find it on Bruce's shop, so if its the same snorkel and you want a new one, a local mower shop is the way to go.

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The cheapest and best way to get powertorque snorkel hose is by buying a grey water hose from the reject shop, 8 meters for around $5, the hose fitted to this mower is easy enough to find or they can be repaired as I have seen before.

Its most likely a 125, as that cowling has a bump for the decompressor, on the back whereas most 160's have a slightly bigger cowling.

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as for the snorkel, try the ga spares website they have these snorkels listed then take the part no to your local dealer and get them to order a snorkel for you

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Is someone going to help tiger to take the Flywheel off correctly. That would be a good start . Tiger I would try to get spark first and to do this mate you need some help in taking the flywheel off first. Do you have a Flywheel puller if not you might be able to get one from outdoorking store. To take the Flywheel off it's probably easier to see how it's done on u-tube or someone on here that knows how to explain it a lot easier then I can. So if you wold like to get it going this is where I would start.

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The flywheel is not to hard to get off ,get the nut off for now..And let some WD40 soak into the sharft for a few days...Just dont use a hammer to smash the flywheel off like some .. smashpc lol

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if you have access to a rattle gun this is the best way to remove the flywheel. plus you should have little trouble finding ignition part for these if necessary

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might not be the best way but it always worked for me , i just use a rattle gun seems to work well it lossens it as it undoes the nut with vibrations , but NEVER!!!! use it to tighten again as it will break the flywheel . if that doesnt work then use a puller after a good soak with crc or the like

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Thanks so much guys for those ideas. Have only taken one flywheel off before and that was a few years ago, only thing I remember was that it took me ages to do it.
Joe, like the idea of the hose bought from the Reject store, that is really convenient as I have a Reject store close by also a nice cheap solution.

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Sorry tiger ,before you take your Flywheel off you might want to check for spark with your killwire disconnected from the carby then if no spark then take the flywheel off and check your points etc! Also check with a known good spark plug. Id like to help you through this but there are much more qualified 2 stroke pushers that will be able to guide you better mate , cheers and good luck.

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Thanks Roebuck. I did try a good plug but still no spark. Will try without kill wire connected but carby is different from the usual 2 stroke stuff I've done.

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metal carby ? only one wire on it , just unclip it and make sure it doesnt touch any other parts but normaly the old girls dont do it often . a knowen good plug isnt a new one though , i know i have had a few bad new ones ! normaly keep a good used one for tests and check it once in a while . how you getting on with it ?

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Thanks Vccomm, makes it sound easy. Will check it out, can't do anything for next few days on the Mayfair but will let you know how I go with it.

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Yep sounds like there could be an ignition problem. Have you got the flywheel off yet. Could be the points cap not being the right size. I'm glad vcoomm that I'm not the only one to have faulty new spark plugs.


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