OutdoorKing Repair Forum Forums Repairs and Maintenance Questions On Hand Held Blowers/Vacuums Petrol Blowers & Vac's Homelite Blower

Wonderful, Keep me up to date on any parts you are missing, and i will see what i can do!

Ok I will do.

Ok no good pulled carby apart,cleaned it out still no go.However it does seem not to get as much fuel as it was.So I would think it would start ,but it don't.Maybe time to go back to rubbish heap where it came from,as I now have no idea.

How did you go with the setting of the jets?

I noticed your mix screws have plastic tops on them, however, if you can get a small flat head into the small holed in the centre of the red/whit caps, you should be able to adjust them that way.

Put them both right it, and then bring them out 1/4 turn at a time, together.

So, screww them fully clockwise (not too much pressure though, they are delecate) then turn the red ant-clockwise 1/4 turn, then the white one, now give it just a couple of pulls, and see how it goes, after a few pulls, if it wont start, bring the 2 screws out another 1/4 turn, and try a few more pulls.

Keep going untill you get something, or till the screws stop.

Occasionally pull out the plug and check for flooding.

The red one has lugs on it so it can't turn,also it has no screw driver slot.The white one only turns about half way.I have tried that in various positions and it seems to make very little (if any) difference.

You need a smaller screwdriver, the slots are inside the lugs, on the actual brass screws, down the small holes in the centre of the lugs.

The only way to do that would be to pull the red plastic cap off,as they are fastened onto them.I couldn't see anybody going to that trouble just to make something not work.I'm not sure that is the problem.It as it is getting fuel,and no near as much as it was.It just doesn't seem to want to work the way it should.I'm now sure it's not a spark plug issue as I also tried another known working plug today and still now go.It may be firing just a little bit,as twice when I took the plug out I did get coming out what seem to be exhaust gases.Couldn't be 100% sure of that.

You need to rempove the plastic covers to be able to be able to adjust the screws.

Both general Use, and dis-assembling the carby will lead to needing to adjust the mixing screws, I did not realise you could pull the caps off, so do what bruce has mentioned above, to adjust them.

You would be surprised how mutch of an effect those little guys can have.

Not to mentuon, it's previos owner may have tried adjusting them for a number of reasons, even just "becase i though it would make it better"

Yes I understand that,but what I trying to work is why would I need to.I mean how or why would they be that far out to cause this,as I wrote before after putting carby back together there in now a big difference in the amount of fuel going into the combustion chamber.I now can't see that the carby would be an issue.Before I did the carby it would end up dripping fuel from it,now it doesn't.Also the plug is not wet any more,you can see it is moist where as before when I'd pull it out the plug would dripping with fuel.The issue I have is I have never played with these carby's before and this could be do or die for the carby.If I stuffed it up it could very well be the end of it.I'm just fairly sure it wouldn't be a carby issue now.

Well Run through everything else first then.

Strong white/blue spark over a 3mm gap?
Good Top & Bottom Compression?
If it's reed-valve, how is the valve looking?
How does the timing seem?
Are you sure the Muffler has not had some insect build a nest anywhere in it?

I feel that this does still seem carby related to me, However if you are uncomfortable getting to that, we can go through the process of ruling out all possible alternatives, as that way we can be sure about the carby eliment, and you can feel more confident you are not risking the carby unecissarily.

We can start with checking the ignition timing, While this engine wil have a transistorised coil, and there for the actual timing is controlled by a computer module, you can still have some issues that can cause the timing to be out, these are mostly regaurding flywheel keys, etc.

To make the machine not kick at all, it would need to be noticabley out, get a long wwoden stick, like the handle of a small artists paint brush, and insert it into the spark plus hole untill it touches the piston, hold it fairly central, so that it does not fall to the edge of the cylinder, this will let you see where the piston is in it's cycle.

Now, do a spark test, and try to work out if the piston is pretty much at the top of the cylinder when it sparks.

Thanks for all your assistants with this [Censored] thing. I appreciated it,however I feel I've had enough of it.I certainly have sent far to much time working on it.It would be better and cheaper just to buy a new one.I mean I bought a wiper sniper and another blower for spare parts for it.Now how much is it worth?I have projects all over the place which I feel at this point are more important than this thing that refuses to go.I mean even if I got it going is it a good one? Is it worth it? I'm sorry I've just spent nearly 2 days on it.I just feel likes it an exercise in futility.I would prefer to spend my time on equipment that wants to live on.I am sorry but at this point I think I'd really like to see a sledge hammer taken to it,but I won't. I'm just going to put it in the shed and maybe wait until I feel that I need something that will frustrate me again.Sorry I just don't think its worth all this frustration.I mean these one the same model on eBay for $35. I don't think this one is worth it.Once again thanks to all I do appreciate the help.I just don't think it's worth the hassle.

Would you like me to "Borrow" it for a week or two, and see if I cant give it back to you working?

If I had a way to get it out here I would give it a new home, I might need a blower yet. I do see them very occasionaly out here but since the shop is gone from the tip here it is impossible to get anything.

Joe, I am free the weekend of the 13th/14th, So I can come by and give you that mower.

If you like i can stop on the way and grab you a blower from the tip here, there's a few MTD's with Ryobi engines, as well as a couple of Ryobi's, and a few others by memory.

Heck I could stop at the tip on the way to yours, and call you to tell you whats there, then you could pick out anything you like!

I'll pm you in a sec Ty. On that weekend I only have the saturday off mainly after full crank victas these days, I have given up picking up any "new" mowers unless they are a special model or free.....

Well you can if you like,just don't pull your hair out like I did.It would be good to get it going. I do need one.I just don't have the time at the moment to look at it.With the inspection coming up and so many other jobs on the table.

No Worries mate, I have a number of things here for you, so i will grab it when i drop these off, and let you know how i go with it.

Do you have a day when you will call in?

Not sure yet, probably next week.

Ok cool.I'll put it back together then.Do you have the (I think) six pin (like a star) bits to undo the cover?If not I'll leave the back cover off.

It's OK, I have those!

Have to keep alot of different security screw drivers about!

Ok then I'll put it back together then.Thanks for doing this man.I do appreciate it.

Not a worry, I will make sure to post the results up here too!

Ok and I won't interfere in the fixing process as I'm completely out of ideas with it.[Censored] thing.

Ok I bite the bullet and I tried the mixture screws on the carby.Did as was told screwed them in all the way and then screwed them out 1/4 turns at a time. Continued doing this until I could visible see that the screws were so far out I swear I seen a china man dangling from the ends of them.Way to far out.All with not one sliest kick.No signs of life at all.The only problem I have now.Is how the heck and I'm going to get it going now.I now have an unturned carby as well as what ever the other issue is.I really (as I said before) believe it's not a carby issue.Surely these carby's would work on a similar principle as a car engine.They use to work on the principle of all the way in and then 1 and a half turns out,would at least get it started then go from there.Could this work the same? I hope so as at least that would give me a starting point with the carby.Could the problem be that even-though it has spark could it just be a little to weak to cause the big bang?Then another bang and another and so and on and...,you know what I mean.I just can't understand it.I've never had an engine where everything appears to work but yet no go.[Censored] frustrating.Ok let me know what you think guys any help will do.Even the most silliest idea could lead to a solution.After all that's what this forum is good for people with the same interest throwing ideas around.Thanks all.

Hvae you checked the flywheel key out yet? for an engine to show no signs of life at all with fuel and spark I would be paying attention to the timing.

Ok then.Silly question.If the timing is out wouldn't it a least try and kick? I just thought I'd see some kind of life.

I figure if its far enough out that its sparking at the bottom of the compression stroke, it will be too far away to make any sign of life. Could also be worth trying an ignition coil from a similar whipper snipper if you have one that fits as if the electronic ignition module might be muffed up, this is unlikely though.