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#14666 03/11/09 02:09 PM
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picked up a scott bonnar 45 pretty good for its age very little wear regards steve...

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Looks good. Are you gonna restore this one as well? Where abouts in Aus are you just out of curiosity?

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for now i will just give it a good service. sharpening corks carby oil ect to be honest its like this mower was hardly used the cylinder cutter has never been ground the cylinder drive chain tensioner has no flat spots, next to no rust, not much anyway the clutch thrust pad or pawl ithink its called is brass the spark plug is a champion C8. If i understood the the engine id numbers that could tell me the age ? any way wassbat im in nsw central coast regards steve...

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servicing in progress note cylinder cutter condition which i am conparing to my other 45 which has a lot less meat ...

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From your picture of the cylinder you have plenty of meat on the cutters. cheers2


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Hi steve, this machine is in brilliant nick for it's age, is it the same model as your other machine? It would appear to be late '60's-early 70's with the Kirby Tecumseh, prior to the 2.5HP Briggs that were fitted in '74.
The cylinder reel is different also to the later Scotties, in that yours appears to be champhered up to the edge (or perhaps hollow ground?) where the later reels have a straight edge.
Plenty of meat in this one tho!! lol
Steve, congrats on a good score there, mate wink
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hi all and thanks for your intrest again all of what u deejay and bruce have said is right about the cutter reel. i think a clean up and put it back together so in keeping with the original look regards steve..

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ive just noticed on the engine info/id plate that the spark plug suggested is a champion j8 which is whats in it i guess that would be called a special plug now daysbeing a full size plug

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yes deejay it is the same a mark1 regards steve..

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Hi Steve, thanks for posting some good pics, mate. After speaking to the gentleman re: when the Model 45 was first manufactured, he told me 1966, and the serial numbers on the first machines started from 00000 and ran sequencially. Thus with your machine, we can definately say yours was the 867th Model 45 produced! grin
It is a pity we don't know how many machines were made in a year, eh! cry
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UPDATE: We now know this information was incorrect. No exact date is possible for any Scott Bonnar.


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well those numbers had to mean something my other s/b 45 is 02963 going by your info she is younger than the 00867

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The other thing that im not sure about is the cutter reel, and that is that the cutters are ground shaped. Im wondering if this is the original cylinder cutter, and whats the purpose of this shape. thx deejay for your source of info. If the kirby engine could be given a date /year that could tell me the age of the whole mower possibly thanks steve...

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Hi Steve, yes mate, according to my info, your first SB is the baby of the family.... lol
As for dating a Kirby Tecumseh, I haven't a clue there, Steve. I know you can date a Briggs by it's serial number, as for the Kirby....I will try and do a bit of research. wink
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hi deejay thanks again for your reply!!! Over the weekend i couldn't help myself so i started pulling down the kirby today monday and im half way putting it back together. Head bolts were loose as was every bolt and screw. Inside the fuel tank is dried up leaded fuel and some surface rust, its not good. At the moment i have diesel and some nuts and bolts inside the tank by shaking the tank its helping clean it. I have access to new/old never used parts for kirby/tecumseh engines 40 year old new parts. Anyway heres a couple of pics regards steve....

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some more pics of kirby engine pull down ...

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It all starting to come together by the looks of it. Just make sure that you get the valve clearance right when putting it back together. cheers2


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thx bruce i will make sure that i do the valve clearance


i said i would just change the corks and a sharpen but its gone way past that idea getting the inside of the fuel tank clean is a bit of a problem but im working on it handle bars cleaned up nice regards

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deviosi congrats on a fantastic job that you have done up to now. I will be looking forward to the finished product because what you have done up to now looks better than a new machine. cheers2


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aussie g day! some more pics of my rebuild ... Went to set the the cylinder cutter! to the bed knife. And its all over the shop'..... It seems the cylinder knifes are not true enough. An example of this is when, say the left side is ajusted down, and contact made with the bed knife, but the contact is 2" inch in from the left end of the bed knife. To drop it any lower, it is sitting to heavy on the bed knife. I've had both sides up down and in between, and i can't get it to cut from left to right and visa versa. I had it sharpened and a new bed knife. So to sum it up, what i am trying to achieve is a scissor like action across the face of the bed knife, but not able to. This setting was done on a very flat surface, with rear drum ajustment set square to ground and a page out of the telegraph news paper. Any advice would help before I phone the guy who did the sharpening. Thanks all....

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smirk ive had this mower three weeks . with the longer days ive realy hoed into it to get it this far in that time but the heat today has me inside for a sunday siesta anyway COUPLELA DAYZES ... cheers

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