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NormK #120460 31/12/24 07:50 AM
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Apprentice level 2
As one old enough to remember relining drum brake shoes the lining material came in rolls of different thicknesses and grades and it was just a matter of rivetting it on to the metal shoes. In the 1960s a company in Melbourne developed a method to stick the lining on without rivets (Raybond) and did very well.

I just searched "brake reline friction material", the material is available. I did some work on a Cox ride on with the variable drive system recently, the friction material looked just like brake lining.

NormK #120462 31/12/24 11:40 AM
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Thanks MM,
I will have a scratch around a few of the brake mobs around here once they start to open up again after the new year

NormK #120464 31/12/24 01:18 PM
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Hi Norm,

I'm not sure how old the friction drive I have is as it doesn't look original ,it looks like a replacement so if it's an old replacement
then likely has asbestos.

I looked at all the friction material ages ago but the problem was finding one that was suitable for an aluminum wheel as you
can't use normal brake lining, I'm sure some manufacturer will have Ceramic or Composite Materials that will suit but it
can't be cheap going by the replacement change over part.

Cheers
Max.

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NormK #120466 31/12/24 04:34 PM
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Max,
I will have a chat to the blokes at BGT brakes and clutches, they have been in this game for as long as I can remember, they must have some idea. One of the reasons that new part was so expensive is because you have to buy the whole assembly not just getting the existing pulley rebonded with new friction material

NormK #120469 31/12/24 05:44 PM
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I couldn't imagine it costing under $150. around my area Norm but may be worth a shot.

NormK #120481 02/01/25 11:24 AM
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Talking about brake companies, I recently bought a set of brake pads online from RDA. I couldn't believe how bad they were. The metal locator tabs that fit into the center of the caliper pistons didn't fit at all. When I tried to install the pads, the three metal clips would get damaged and start to break. In the end, the only way to fit them was to use pliers to bend the three metal locator tabs. I'm not sure if the pads were seconds from a questionable seller, or if they are all this bad.

"The metal clips are made from really poor-quality material and are nowhere near the size needed to fit the caliper piston properly."

I do buy some new parts these days that are listed for what I want but they don't fit without modifications but the sellers don't tell you that.

I'd never seen such low quality pads ,I now see what's happening ,the pads were for an old car so now the higher quality suppliers don't
make the brake pads anymore.

Cheers
Max.

NormK #120482 02/01/25 12:26 PM
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Hi Max,
with pretty much everything you buy on ebay you take a chance but overall you can save a lot of money over time with only the odd thing catching you out. In Casey at the moment there is a shitfight going on because they have brought in a permit system which you have to apply for, wait 2 weeks and pay $150 so you can work on YOUR own car in YOUR own driveway. You have to have a permit ( all costing $150) for a caravan or unregistered vehicles parked on YOUR property. The troops are not happy down Casey way

With the friction plate I guess I could cut a piece out of an old car tyre and glue/rivet that on. And another way may be going back to the idea you had about using the timing gear and belt, I guess I could cut strips from a car tyre and glue/rivet that to the ally wheel. At least with doing it this way the motor doesn't have to come off if it needs replacing, just glue/rivet another strip of tyre on. Got nothing to loose if it doesn't work

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NormK #120483 02/01/25 04:25 PM
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G'day Norm,

Yep I've had to get a few refunds on eBay when buying new products from China when they aren't fit for purpose ,there are
a few sellers that say the buyer has to pay return postage but that's not eBay's policy so you can get a full refund without
paying to return an item that doesn't match the sellers description.

The City of Casey say on their webpage ,Unfortunately, in recent days, our Customer Service Team has been subjected to threatening behaviour as a result of inaccurate information. I've always wondered when we will be taxed for breathing as we get taxed for almost everything
else ,I guess a pollution tax is as good as a breathing tax.

I didn't know how many things now require a permit in Casey Norm ,I guess if you work inside a shed /garage where people can't see there
shouldn't be a problem.

In a few weeks I may be down your way Norm to drop off some scrap ,I can drop off that friction drive I have here if you want it
at no charge ,I realize you may not want to use it if it has asbestos in it. Up to you.

Cheers
Max.

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NormK #120484 02/01/25 06:59 PM
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Thanks Max,
Happy to pay you for the friction disc, that will get this great little rideon back into service. Seemed to be a terrible waste to just scrap when it has years of service left in it not to mention the fact it is helping the environment by recycling/repurposing items

NormK #120487 03/01/25 06:35 PM
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No problem Norm .

NormK #121238 26/03/25 06:32 PM
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Ok finally got it all sorted, should be a good mower now that it is ready to go back to work

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NormK #121252 29/03/25 06:13 PM
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Hi Norm,

The Rover looks good finished ,turned out well ,should last at least another 50 years if you can still buy fuel in 50 years.

Should have a fair amount of grunt as it looks more than 8 Hp.

You would never think people would keep selling damaged cracked new old stock tubes ,ends up costing more in Labour to keep replacing tubes than what they are worth.

Cheers
Max.

NormK #121254 29/03/25 06:27 PM
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Yes Max,
it has plenty of power with an 11hp motor. I had to rebuild the deck which took a bit of time. Thanks again for the friction disc, hopefully my daughter and hubby will appreciate the amount of hours I spent on it.

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