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NormK #118560 29/07/23 09:54 PM
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Bit disappointed with the swivel wheel again, I increased the rake on the wheel from 40mm offset to 60mm offset but the wheel now hits the deck so I have to cut the leg off and move it further outwards. It isn't a problem because at the moment the grass is growing slowly and the way the rain is looking we look like not having a lot of flooding so we should be able to use the zero turn without issues this year. All depends on how the spring rains go this year

NormK #118562 30/07/23 12:56 PM
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Hi Norm,

The mower looks like it's cutting well, I've found the caster wheels don't want to swivel well in certain circumstances unless
the turning shaft has bearings ,like a push bike or motor bike front forks.

I'd probably make a bracket first to lock the wheel straight and see how that goes as the wheel may just skid a little and not
effect anything.

From Wikipedia below

Trail or trailing

Caster angle and trail both influence the steering, albeit in different ways: caster tends to add damping, while trail adds "feel" and returnability.

The caster wheel on shopping carts are an extreme case – the system is undamped (unrestricted motion) but stable, as the wheel oscillates around the "correct" path. The construction has relatively high trail, but no caster, which allows changing of direction with minimal force.

In this case the lateral forces at the tire do not act at the center of the contact patch, but at a point behind the center. This distance is called the pneumatic trail and varies with speed, load, steer angle, surface, tire type, tire pressure and time. A good starting point for this is 30 mm behind the center of the contact patch.

I guess you could measure a shopping cart wheel to get the offset then upscale the offset to the wheel size you are using to get the best results.

I've also seen caster wheels change direction more easily when the pivot bearings are out in a wider path , like 2 flat plates at the top
of the wheel with the balls in between the 2 plates and with the bearing balls spaced out to a foot.

Cheers
Max.

NormK #118564 30/07/23 05:54 PM
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Hi Max,
I used a bit of 40mm Delrin for the bush and the wheel is sitting on the Delrin but you might be right that I have to put a thrust bearing in there. It all gets very technical and I originally didn't want to use a wheel but I ended up having to because with the suspension on the 4x4 everything moves all over the place and even the diff rotates as the the suspension goes up and down. It has made mounting it very difficult be we keep bashing on with it

NormK #118608 07/08/23 08:51 AM
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Hi Max,
I finally got to alter the castor wheel on the back of the mower yesterday, I had originally had welded it about centre of the back of the deck, so this time I welded it in line with the centre of the motor and that improved things so it is now mowing as it should. The only downside is the ATV is a bit bulky and its turning circle isn't good. Now all we have to do is wait for the Spring rains to come and see how it handles the really wet ground. The way the weather is looking though we may not have a rain problem this year, probably end up mowing dust

NormK #118617 07/08/23 06:03 PM
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G'day Norm,

Good to hear it's all working as intended now.

That makes sense ,I didn't notice it was off centre to the motor in the image before ,it must have skidded more when off centre.

If it doesn't rain this year , just have to wait until next year.


Cheers
Max.

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