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Hi all
A couple of pics of the arrangement at the discharge. I presume the pin is for the Wind-Rower and the raised sections of body for the catcher but not sure about the speed clip.

Cheers

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Hi all

A helpful chap contacted me about the wind-rower, unfortunately he doesn't have a spare but sent pics of the one he has. His mower base arrangement looks the same as mine and he will also forward some dimentions.
When i looked at the pictures it didn't look as though it would be easy to make as the section which the pin goes through is ribbed and a few other things. I was surprised to learn that the wind-rower he has is made of plastic and is Red in colour.
Were they using plastic componentry in those days ?. Has any ODK members have a wind-rower on their Turner that they could post some pictures of ?

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wce

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Were they using plastic componentry in those days ?
Hello wce
The answer is very much yes.
I guess you have to remember what else Turner Industries did ...

http://htpaa.org.au/hand-tools/australian-tools-makers/australian-makers/turner-tools

Turner were an early user and promoter of plastics.
Turner introduced the first polyurethane catcher on these shores!

Cheers
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Jack

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Hi Jack
Thanks for the information, anyone know a plastics manufacturer ? I'm very grateful of the responses I have received to my posts being a super novice. The search continues for the parts but during the process I have touched base with some great characters and have secured some other Turner items, one being an original owners guarantee and instruction document in the turner envelope. It's a good read with a strong reference to not putting oil in the fuel as I guess everyone at that time was bought up on a diet of 2 strokes. The other interesting bit I noticed was to make sure you install the correct blades in accordance with what you are using the mower for ( utility or catch ) My mower has the 4 throw blades fitted for catcher use, I presume the utility blades are flat. The throw blades look a bit fancy having a slight indent section on the back of the blade and the cutting edge is stepped and slightly angled. A lot of science and thought or a lot of nothing ?

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Hi WCE,

Just letting you know that new blades, bolts and carriers are still available through GA Spares,
any mower shop with a account can order them for you. Have a look here on their web page,
go to mowers and type Turner blades into the search box. Same with the ODK shop, blades
and bolts are available

https://www.gaspares.com.au/products/BLD304?q=Turner%20blades&product_code=BLD304&per_page=&product_page=&search%5Bcategory_url%5D=

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Hi all

Paul_c's recent great images posted promoted me to post.

No luck with a windrower or side catcher thus far but picked up a few bits as a result of contacts made. Oil bottle, had no idea that a matching fuel bottle even existed until Paul posted the pic of his, metal Turner sign, Turner mower guarantee and owners manuals in Turner envelope and a NOS Turner catcher. Not sure what model it is for, possibly later Valiant ? the chap i got it off told me the original price tag was attached to the string on the handle but rotted away unfortunately.

Cheers
wce

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Hello wce and Paul
You guys certainly know Turner.

These are great images for the record.

The Turner signage must be rare now.
My best guess is that the campaign slogan
"Built for the man who demands the best!" appeared
in late 1962 for the 1963 season.

Cheers
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Jack

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Hi WCE and Jack,

So jealous of your sign and new old stock catcher, they both look great. I wonder if the sign can be reproduced at one of those printing places and then attached to that plastic curfew board. Food for thought.

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G'day wce,

Those blades you have fitted are in fact Turner P/No 50-07-18, an early 1960s type which continued to be used on side discharge Turners until Turner exited the mower industry in 1970. These are long unavailable.

The P/No 50-15-18 'fan' type blades shown in paul_c's post above were introduced for rear catcher Turner models around 1964. These were fitted as a pair, rather than a set of four.

There's a bit of discussion on these blade types in this thread about a Turner-made 'storebrand' model; https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/72964/3.html


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Gadge

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Hi Gadge

Thanks for the info, I had a look through a bag of nos Repco blades and bolt sets that i acquired but the turner blades are the later model. Some good stuff in there including hexagonal blade bolt set for sunbeam. Mayfair , pace, early rover and other bits.

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wce

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Good afternoon all

Thanks to Jack for the initial owner contact.

I managed to get a message to him being in possession of the only wind rower I knew of but unfortunately he had sold that mower. I was able to track the mower but it was on sold again, eventually made contact with the current owner of the mower, who initially, for reasons obvious, was reluctant to part company with the part. After a number of conversations over time, a piece of rather expensive broken plastic arrived.
The quest to make an exact replica has begun and here is the first prototype which I'm pretty happy with. after a bit more work, painting etc I think it will look great. The pictures are deceiving as they make the replica look smaller but it was cast from the original.

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G'day WCE and all

The side shoot cover came out great.

Just on a side note about Turner ,I found out a while back that the paint department used a wall of flowing water to remove
overspray when painting all the mower bases .

Pic below is not the Turner wall of water.

Cheers
Max.

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Hi all

A couple of Turner pics ,one is the water wall, apparently the spray booth was pressurized to keep
out dust.

Cheers
Max.

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Good evening ODK members

Well here it is, original toe guard bar but not a lot of my work I must confess other than some filling and painting. Needed to contract the services of some very good people to get this to the finish line, very happy with the outcome. The F61 has a wind rower that is very correct.

Cheers
wce

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Well here it is, original toe guard bar but not a lot of my work I must confess other than some filling and painting.
Hello wce, Paul, Gadge, and Maxwell
This is a great topic that I couldn't contribute much to.

It's a great jigsaw story where knowledgeable folk (above)
have contributed to our understanding of a very old rotary mower.

The Turner safety windrower is now actualised to history.
This is an important story for the evolution of lawnmower safety.

From the blades (Gadge & Paul), to the factory images (max),
to the terrier tenacity of wce we have a resolution!
[wce, you made this happen!]

Many thanks to all.
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Jack

p.s. Max, bring down that wall!

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Notice the non use of ppe in spray booth

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Could be the same brand as used by security at our hotel quarantine Norm.

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Yes wce, I hear you have a bit of a problem over there and the ppe or lack of has been mentioned over here. At least you are only locked down for 5 days at the moment I think?

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The mind boggles Norm ! the exact question about what the person was or wasn't wearing in the way of ppe was asked to our minister of health at the news conference this morning, he could not answer the question !!!! when the person rang in to say he wasn't coming to work his next shift because he was feeling unwell no alarm bells rang !!!
I believe our government has done well so far but it's now obvious that Covid management has been underpinned by lashings of extreme good fortune. Other states, Victoria, in particular made some blunders and the public have paid the full toll for them. WA has had some major breaches but got away with it, thus far. It would be a miracle if there are no cases of community spread given the distances and places this person has visited instead of being isolated, to the average person what has happened doesn't take rocket science to prevent.
Our leaders have taken great delight in leaping in front of the cameras at the lectern declaring WA the safest place on earth bla, bla, bla but of course continually pumping up ones tyres usually leads to problems.
If the poo doesn't hit the fan, and I certainly hope it doesn't ! It could be a case of our leader actually being able to walk on water.

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