Yes we were a Holden family for many many years but the last 20 years they have come out with a lot of junk. They even produced a lot of junk Toranas when they were using up all the reject stuff they could no longer off load into Europe so dump it in Aus. I didn't mind it because it meant I could pick up cheap Toranas with buggered Opal motors , put a 6 or 8 in them and you had a fantastic car again. All their new junk is just that, junk. My grandson has a WM Caprice, what an overpriced piece of rubbish that is, has cost him an absolute fortune, because when things go wrong you are talking similar repair costs to BMW and Mercedes. Don't get me started on VW and Audi repair costs and sealed autos that can't be repaired, can only be replaced at a cost $8000 for the parts. And then the VW Amarok, $10,000 to replace the clutch