Sparker, my reason for interest in this is my mate wants a self propelled for his mowing business but he will never buy another Honda because the gearbox is not fit for purpose. His local mower repair shop has been telling him to look at the Rover but they are saying it has a Briggs and he doesn't want that. A Rover self propelled with a Honda could be the answer providing the drive is robust enough and I guess I would need to look at it in person.