The pull starter I use as I listed above comes with the starter cup and for $14 they are exceptional value. They always require a bit of work to fit, some more than others but these are a tough starter. Fitting them on most of the early Victa cup starters requires lifting the cowl about 14mm which is a time consuming pain,but fitting them on machines like the Victa 24 is a big improvement on the old Victa setup. People using these bigger machines can't be bothered with dodgy equipment, they have to just get out there and slash the grass
