Yes I thought as much. The people near here who still want Victas usually have side throws rather than a catcher as they're 'turning grass into lawn' and not wanting to empty the catcher every few feet. You're right about people not realising in time. I couldnt find any second hand ones for sale when I last looked. They turn up at the scrap metal places but not only do you have to have the spare time, you have to be really quick before someone takes it.