Thanks Slash, job well done on showing me how to put a pic in here. The engine number on this one is 127 177 if that helps date it Sadly I didn't take any before pics but there was a couple of holes through the plate where the axles fit, axles were deeply rusted,areond the engine mounts it had been welded up with big lumpy weld. JB Weld to the rescue on so many bits on it, only good for sitting on a shelf, but he should be happy with it