g day well i took a trip to the guy who sharpend my cylinder blades he gave em anther quick relief grind it seems i was not ajusting the cylinder cutter down enough thats about the size of it what i did work out for myself was that by folding a piece of newspaper in two so to make it thicker to resemble a blade of grass it was spot on good sissor action i think what im trying to say is it will come out in the wash regards chaps steve.....