Ok so now I have the proof, I set up 5 in a row, turned the fuel on and 3 out of the 5 leaked. That is brand new primer caps from the Carbymaster so they are supposed to be the improved type and I polished the seats with Autosol and 5 new needles. Hard to believe all other manufacturers can make float needles that work and we can't get anything to work on Victas.