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Joined: Mar 2019
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Hi ,

Sorry to resurrect this old thread but I was interested in the history of the 20" model Scott Bonnars and was hoping you could shed some light on something for me...

I have a 20" twin that I picked up recently and after reading this thread I am a little confused.

My 20" appears to be powder coated - red.
It is badged as a Rover 45 Select but has a 6 blade reel.
It has a 'Scott Bonnar' Aluminium ID plate riveted to the rear rail. - 450538
It does not have the original engine on board.

Not sure if it is actually a Rover 45 of if someone has painted/powder coated it to look like a rover 45.

The ID plate suggests (I think) that is a much earlier model than a Rover 45 select.

Either way, I am happy with the mower, just interested to know.

Cheers




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Hi Crispy

Post some photos and I'm sure mod Bonnar_Bloke will be along shortly to solve all you questions.

Cheers

BS


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Hello Crispy

This is your first post - welcome!

I have moved this to a new forum and topic.

The 450538 is documented up till the Rover Takeover.
After that, the information is scarce.

The interesting thing is the 6 blade reel - on a 20"!
The colour, red - makes no sense.

The best initial thing to do is post images.

Very interesting.
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Jack

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Hi Bon_Scott & Cyber Jack

Yes, it is interesting and I'm keen to learn more about it...

I forgot to mention - It also has the Triple rear roller.

I also thought that the 'Select' was fitted as standard with an 8 blade reel, hence my suspicion.

The reel is damaged, so I will endeavor to replace or repair this when the opportunity arises

Anyway, here are the pics...

Cheers,
Crispy

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Hi Crispy,

There is a rather simple explanation about this machine and that is that it's not a Rover, infact the ID plate gives it's true identity away as a Scott Bonnar that's been refinished in Rover Red and has had the decals to suit the 17 inch machine fitted, thus why they don't stretch across the full width of the catcher. The handle bars are finished in red opposed to being chrome in appearance.

The 6 blade reel was fitted towards the end of 20 inch production as it was cheaper to manufacture and by this stage the 20 inch machine was no longer taken all that seriously as a top end machine like it was when it came out with the 8 blade unit.

The thickness of the blades was reduced near the beginning of Series II (twin railer) production as the Series I certainly looked far more sturdy in the reel department, but everything along the way was about cutting costs and being competitive in the market.

In saying all of the above, this machine has been conjured together from a number of different parts taken from various other machines.

The three piece rear roller is from a series one or one of the very early Series II machines.
The handle bars "could" also be from a series one but they were fitted on Series II machines fitted with the Kirby engines.
The PTO shaft bearing housing is from an earlier than Rover machine as it still has the oiling hole.
Can't quite see if it still has reel bearing carriers without oiling holes, but does seem to be the case.
Deflector plate has Series I securing thumb knobs.
Engine and Catcher are replacements.
Front Roller frame is now red and not Zinc plated. (Black on Rover Reds)
6 Blade Reel is from what I feel would be a later made machine.

There's probably quite a few other smaller details that I've missed but in saying all this one would have to call this machine a Heinz Breed.

Cheers,
BB.


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Hi Bonnar_Bloke,

Cheers for that....better to know than not..

I am happy with it anyway, it cuts nice - just means that it may be due for a reno sooner than I thought. I will just keep my eye out for the parts I need.

Thanks again,
Crispy


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Hi BB & Crispy

The photos tell the story and BB was definately the man to solve the mystery, I considered turning my SB into the first 14" Rover I'm glad I scraped that idea.


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