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#94829 11/12/18 02:21 PM
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Hi all
Does anyone know if any Turner models were fitted with Briggs and Stratton engines ?

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wce

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Hello wce
That's a great question there...

All my records indicate Turner did not use Briggs and Stratton engines.
They used Kirby-Tecumseh 2 and 4 strokes and Villiers 2 strokes.

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Hi Jack and thanks for the reply, that's also what I thought, will try to get and post a picture of the mower in question.

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Hi all,

Thought this one was interesting it has no name.

Cheers
Max.

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G'day Max and wce
Yep, interesting and no-name for sure, Max

As mysterious as the Carter mowers.

This one has the earliest of the height adjusters - with rotary knob,
and no facility to take a catcher. And a light blue green colour,
like the Qualcast-Turners.

Catcher facility seems to have come - on Turners - in late 1960.
That does not necessarily help date this one though, given it was
a store brand not designed to compete with Turner branded models.

The earliest store brands I have found are the Anderson-Turners,
beginning in late 1961 - but they had lever height adjusters, as
did the Qualcast-Turners.

Both lever adjusters and catchers, then, seem to have arrived
in late 1961 for the 1962 range, and these features were offered
to Eric Anderson (store brand), and Qualcast (as a factory re-brand),

Both Anderson and Qualcast had base-cast branding.

This one has lost its decal, had no catcher, has the earliest chassis,
and has a blue hammertone finish.

The numerous mount holes suggest 2 and 4 strokes, including the
early GEB 135 cc 4-strokes.

I do not understand those two most outer holes in the deck (discharge side).

Executive summary: Max, I have no idea. smile
Any ideas or thoughts?

Cheers
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Jack

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Hi all

Here is a couple of pics of the Turner, may have had an engine change at some point but it certainly doesn't look out of place on the deck. After enlarging the picture it looks as though the deck may have been green but has been painted silver. I can see that there is the word model on the back of the deck, Ill ask the owner if the model number is stamped next to it. As I'm new to vintage mowers you will need to excuse my ignorance but I have not seen an impulse start Briggs and Stratton before and what is the knob on the side of the cowling for ?
Your thoughts and comments please.

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Gidday wce ,Jack.


The Turner no name base looks blue in the image but it's the same green hammertone finish
as the PYE mower .

I thinks it's more likely a later model than an earlier model to the 1959 Turner because the
1958 Carter has one piece handler bars .

I was wondering if it could possibly be a McEwans 1961 Special with a Villiers Torque master engine.

The two most outer holes in the deck,maybe for a Windrower or a heat shield for the 2 stroke exhaust?

Yes the multiple mounting holes suggest a few engine options would be possible with this base.

Not sure if I will see another Turner store brand mower the same for more info.

Last Pic Turner with Kirby engine for comparison.(not sure where I found the silver Turner image)

Cheers
Max.

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Hello WCE,

The knob on the front cowl is the release for the starter, wind it up and turn the knob.

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Hi ODK Members,

Jack mentioned the Qualcast Turners, I was fortunate enough to pick up an example recently. The base is identical to the Turner just rebadged Qualcast, the height adjustment lever is swapped to the opposite side. The Turner is a F62 Model which has a different side discharge chute modified to take a catcher.

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G;day Paul, Max, wce and all
Paul, many thanks for sharing your Qualcast Turner.
Your images tell the truth about the matter.

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I thinks it's more likely a later model than an earlier model to the 1959 Turner because the
1958 Carter has one piece handler bars.
I absolutely agree Max.
It must be a Turner derivative c1960-61.

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I was wondering if it could possibly be a McEwans 1961 Special with a Villiers Torque master engine.

Max, I don't know ...
I say this because TROVE skews results from these years due
to copyright restrictions. The Canberra Times is a savior here, but
it does skew perceptions.

McEwans were certainly one of the earliest users of Store branded mowers.
The word 'Special' itself suggests a 'toe-cutter' - if you know what I mean ...

The McEwans Special was not a Turner, given the evidence I have found.
But nothing is certain here ...

Cheers
Jack


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Gidday Jack, Paul, wce and all

Thanks Jack for the info.,that Janson looks interesting in the first ad it says imported from America.

One Special is a PYE mower, the other Specials are EZY-CUT mowers .

This ad from Jan 9 1964 has the Turner mower image listed as a Hurricane mower and the Hurricane image listed as a Turner mower.
(not McEwans Special branding just Turner and Hurricane mowers ,I could see Turner cast on the base.)

I found one Turner Mower that doesn't have the Turner name cast on the base it looks like a decal on the Loukon mower 1964.


Cheers
Max.

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