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#94515 30/11/18 09:41 AM
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This is way off topic here but it is the old thing, "if you don't ask you won't get an answer" question. Some years ago I painted a couple of old Enfield motorbikes using the clear over base system, acrylic base colour with 2 pak clear over the top. Problem is recently both have suffered some damage and as I painted them the people have come back asking if I have any of the base colour still here, which I do. My problem is I have never tried to repair then repaint items that have been painted in the 2 pak clear. Am I going to have to sand the clear back over a large area so I don't get the colour on the clear when I spray the repaired area. Just thought I would ask here, somebody might know

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NormK #94522 30/11/18 03:28 PM
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I have had the unfortunate job of repainting a car bonnet - absolute nightmare. Hopefully the area you need to fix is much smaller.

This guy on youtube is quite good - around the 13-14 minute mark he explains feathering the paint and primer. Slightly annoying american voice, but its easier to visually understand the concept, rather that trying to explain it in writing.

Tyler #94524 30/11/18 04:32 PM
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Hi Norm,

I do not think you will successfully blend in a repair on 2 pack. Probably have to repaint the whole component which can not be that big on a bike eg a fuel tank or a mudguard. Professionals seem to only repaint whole sections these days. You might blend with acrylic lacquer only but often the blend shows up after a few years. I did have the whole side of a van repainted once on the insurance "lifetime" repair warranty for just that reason. I think the insurance company did not bargain on me keeping that vehicle for 18yrs.

All the best
Jeff

NormK #94525 30/11/18 04:34 PM
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Hi Norm,

I do not think you will successfully blend in a repair on 2 pack. Probably have to repaint the whole component which can not be that big on a bike eg a fuel tank or a mudguard. Professionals seem to only repaint whole sections these days. You might blend with acrylic lacquer only but often the blend shows up after a few years. I did have the whole side of a van repainted once on the insurance "lifetime" repair warranty for just that reason. I think the insurance company did not bargain on me keeping that vehicle for 18yrs.

All the best
Jeff

NormK #94526 30/11/18 04:40 PM
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Thanks for that about what I figured I guess I pretty much need to remove all the clear which I didn't want to do, one is a tank and the other is a front guard and at the end of the day I can see me spending many days doing this and I'm just not that interested in doing those "freebie" type jobs any more

NormK #94534 30/11/18 08:14 PM
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Hi Norm,

I don't think you would have to actually get the clear right off. If there is no actual damage that needs repair, just sand it all lightly, then use a wax & grease remover (Prepsol) , then the acrylic lacquer and the 2 pack. A bit of a job though and automotive paints are so expensive these days. I got worried about the isocyanates in the 2 pack and do not do it anymore. Not sure the small respirators are good enough.. Probably something else will kill me first.

Regards,
Jeff

NormK #94539 01/12/18 01:05 AM
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Here we call it a clear coat system where you have primer, base coat, and then top clear coat.

You can do spot repairs just got feather the edges to blend the paint. The amount prep and other work needed depends how much damage that is got to be repaired.

If unsure about how to go about it get yourself a test piece to learn on first. That way if you mess up it is no big deal as you are learning from your mistakes. (I hope) Even the big auto company screw up at times painting cars with this system.

NormK #94544 01/12/18 09:34 AM
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I know I am going to have to clear coat all over, that is no problem it is just I'm not sure how the base coat will adhere to the old clear. My other issue is enthusiasm or the lack of.


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