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G'day all.

@ Nicholas24, i am impressed with your work. These kinds of post give some of us the courage to undertake the restoration.

My question is where to get parts to restore my kirby HK25 / HK3o.

Thanks

BK


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Hi BenK,

Depending on what parts you are chasing ?

Cheers,
BB


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HI BB,

I am after all the hoses and seals. The motor I have has not been run in 10 years.

Thanks

BK

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Hi BenK,

The hoses are generic sized fuel line of which you'll require two pieces of and the seals and I assume it's the crankshaft seal you're referring to ? is another generic parts available through any CBC Bearing outlet.

Cheers,
BB.


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Thanks BB.

I have tried to get carb kits from my local mower shops with no luck. Is there a place you can refer where i could get them?

Thanks

BK

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Hi Benk,

There are no carby kits at all available for Kirby Lawsons although there are new carbys available from China via eBay and they are cheaper than a kit would've ever been.

Have a bit of a look and I'm sure you'll be rather pleasantly surprised.

Cheers,
BB


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Thanks BB

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G'day BenK,

Info on the old Kirby engines is a bit scarce these days, but there is an exploded diagram of the HK25 [from the Victa 'Green Book'] in this thread: https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=72511 The part numbers given are Kirby, not Victa, FWIW.

And the basic ignition settings
[Linked Image]

Of the commonly replaced carby parts the float, bowl seal and bowl drain are available as Tecumseh parts. The needle and seat seem to be a bit more difficult to find equivalents for.

But as BB says, it's easier and probably cheaper to get a new carby nowadays. Look for a Tecumseh H25 carby, if you have a HK25.


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Gadge

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Hi BenK,
Here is a couple of sites I have bought spares for Kirby/Tecumseh engines.
http://www.powerequipmentwarehouse.com/genuine-oem-tecumseh-parts-2
http://www.mfgsupply.com/garage/vehicleparts/parts/smallengine/tecumseh/h30/all/
Both great sites and the power equipment warehouse has exploded drawings with part numbers you will have to troll through.
The main issue is the pto oil seal but you will find it under part number 28540.

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Hi BenK,

This is probably the cheapest and best option,

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Carburet...H35-H40-Engine-Carburettor-/111411844170

I must admit I did trawl through the two websites that Mr Jones suggested and there is a lot of later model engine stuff on there, but as far as Kirby's are concerned it is their carby's that are the main let down with air leakage through various spots and thus a whole new carby will eliminate any of those issues and this one looks pretty much the same as the originals, especially when they are painted orange. At $22.95 to your door, it's unbeatable I feel.

Cheers,
BB


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Hi BB,

I haven't been online for a few days now. Thank you for the ebay store link and yes for 22 bucks it is a bargain.

I can now start on welding the fuel tank and cleaning out all the rust.

Thanks BB.

Cheers

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Thanks Again B B for the thread with the Kirby exploded drawings.

BK

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dragging up an old post but we never did see the end result?

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Hi mikeo,

Sadly that's been the case in most threads. People get all excited at the beginning and then lose interest or get side tracked, thus the thread goes cold and so do all us who've helped along the way.

Sometimes I wonder why we bother to be brutally honest.

The last successful thread on Model 45's was by the member "emk3" and was the following,

https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/u...sb-45-dual-project-newbie.html#Post78381


Cheers,
BB.


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Hey everyone,

I know its been a long time since I have posted any updates on my restoration, however, get keen for some future posts to come. Due my final years of schooling I have not been able to work on the 17 inch. Yep... thats right, its still in pieces. As I stated before get keen because I have sourced the correct paint, a replacement engine (as this mower will become my daily), a catcher, new cork, decals and some other miscellaneous items. Therefore, in a couple of weeks after exams I'll be already to get right back into it. Also, I have acquired a couple more mowers which include; a 20 inch solid deck I bought today and a 14 inch I received from a friend a couple months ago. Enjoy the photos smile

Cheers, Nicholas

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Hi everyone,

just a quick update on the restoration, I am currently waiting on a warm calm day to paint the frame and all the other parts the hammer tone green. However, I have managed to paint the cylinder reel and have it sharpened along with the bed knife. Also, I had a new set of sealed bearings fitted to the reel as the old ones were long gone.

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Hi Nicholas24
Many thanks for the update and fantastic images.

This is as good as it gets and your comprehensive coverage will help many folks.
You know how to tell a story through images.

The second image - of reel and bottom block - is stunning! smile

Thank you.
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Jack


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Hi Nicholas,

Just out of interest from a different thread, if I may ask, how much did you pay for the 20 inch and how did you source it originally ?


Cheers,
BB.


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Hi CyberJack,

thank you for your kind words, I will continue to update the restoration with as many photos as possible.

Cheers Nicholas

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Hi Bonnar_Bloke,

the solid deck 20 inch mower was found by a friend at an estate auction. The mower was paired with a Mcculloch chainsaw and the final bid was $300. I had the reel sharpened along with the 17 inch (seen above), but had to replace the bed knife. Below is a photo of the mower parked between a bunch of furniture and a coke machine.

Nicholas


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