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I have some documents here that were given to dealers in regards to engine numbers matching for certain models for the series 70's.On the top of that document 1 is for Cortina. Hi Blumby and contributors, Mate, we'd love to see those dealer documents! Would you be prepared to scan them for the record? It would certainly help us folks in understanding the facts, myths, and mysteries of these numbers. All very interesting.------------------------------- JACK.
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No as the document was not mine and I didn't have a scanner then so it is nearly just me typing it out and printing it myself. So it's not an authentic copy and I haven't done that due to people would just ask questions of why,what,where etc and I just don't want questions like that re-guarding it. So sorry as I have already in the past had such questions about it's authentication and I just don't want to go through all that again.In-fact this is the first time in a long time I have used some information from it.As it's just a piece of paper with model and numbers on that I typed out from the (original of-course) copy,but it seems that knowledge is power (Which seems to scare people)and I have commends that I just made it up etc,and I just don't want to hear things like that again. I have however over the years noticed that mowers that I and others have found do match these numbers. It doesn't cover all series 70's but it does cover a lot. I wished I had a scanner back then but I didn't,and I would not know where it is now.
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Gidday all, Sorry to drop in again,lol, I just pulled the carby of the mower to look for any numbers or brandings, after going over it with a magnifing glass the only brandings found was just behind the red priming button (had to push it down to find this) is a small circle , or large c with a z inside and written across that is DRHZINC, would have been nice to find a G2 or G 3, or even Victa, guess the carby must have changed at some stage. Cheers and thanks for all the help. Kirky
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The G2 carby was a short-lived model, and Victa's first governed 2-stroke carby. Very rare these days. They, and the G3 type, were never marked with their type number that I've seen.
Yours is definitely a G3; the plastic air vane and associated bits are definitive.
Wasn't possible to retrofit these bits to a G2 carby, which had a metal air vane, and didn't incorporate the engine cutout switch. Mowers with the G2 fitted had the cutout switch in the throttle control, and a long wire that ran to it, routed in parallel with the throttle cable.
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What Gadge said....:) The carby will be accurate or close enough for your mower as its definately G3 as stated. The letters C circling Z is simply the manufacturers name, CERTZINC" And does not determine its model Type. So don't worry,as your carby is of the correct type and accurate enough to use in your restoration. Now hopefully with the confusion aside, you can get to building that engine! Lols. 
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OK then.Now we worked it it was one of these models. Models were. 69VE-1-2-3 1969-70 69VE 1970 1969-70 70VE 1970-72 71VE 1970-72 all run the same victacode V63. OK well here's some paper work to prove my theory. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/uploads/usergals/2015/02/full-5048-20467-carby_g2.jpg) See the model code of the carby 3-260 that's the G2 code. See below. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/uploads/usergals/2015/02/full-5048-20468-carby_g2_1..jpg) So as I said it could have ran both carbys depending on exactly which model it is.It won't be the 567 model as per the date on the crankcase but it could be the 69VE model. The G2 ran from 1968 to 1970 so the time frame is there as well.Now that would be near on impossible to work to out exactly which model it is.So as I said before it could have had one. Kirky2 I'd still use the G3 and happy to call it right but I'm just saying to could have had both.I won't add anymore to this carby topic as I don't want you to get confused and or caught up in any argument about it.I just wanted to show why I said it could be. Thanks.
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Hello Blumbly, Had the carby to bits again this morning because when it put the mower all back together again, the blo,!?y thing peed juice all over the place, pulled to bits re-adjusted the float and needle, now works like a charm, but now the tap leaks like a tap, ah you know what I mean, gotta find a new tap for her, in the meantime just mowed my lawn with it, gotta do something about a catcher, never been that dirty or sweaty, you want to know why they got rid of the down point boxy exhausts, (in my mind anyway) the heat from under the mower and then thrown back towards the pusher is almost unbearable, anyway the old girl run like a clock. Cheers, Kirky. PS, the carby above has to many parts compared to mine, but that discussion is over.
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If it has the brass plunger tap, the seal/s should be replaceable.
If it is cork, and there's a slotted screw set in the pull knob, replacement corks are available. Otherwise it will have two o-rings, and these are also available. Check the ODK Online Shop for both.
I'd grab a spare set of the nylon throttle shaft gears too, as these are getting hard to find.
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Giddy Gadge,it's the tap on the petrol tank, it is all plastic, has a red lever that turns from off to on, it's is leaking from that red lever. Things I learnt today- some rattle can paints, don't like petrol, a good catcher is worth its weight in gold (not that I want to pay that much for it), mesh catchers leave you covered in dust and grass, the heat from these old girls is very extreme, great for winter though, a freight train with no exhaust is quieter than a 125 cc motor with a box exhaust and last of all, I'm not as young as I was when I last used one of these mowers, could you imagine using one of these with out ear muffs now. Cheers Kirky2
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Ah OK, you'll have to replace it with a new one then.
Unless you can pick up a secondhand right angle brass tap to keep it original, but they're getting a bit rare.
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Sounds like the baffle has come out of the exhaust as they shouldn't be that noisy.Yes a little more than a modem mower but still shouldn't be that bad. I think for memory that one should have had these taps. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/uploads/usergals/2015/02/full-5048-20473-_57_1.jpg) These two are currently on eBay Fuel Taps As the round plastic ones certainly were not around when this old girl came out.
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Yup, those are the original tap type for this mower.
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Thanks Gadge I thought they may have been,but it seems when the o-rings go people just replace them with the plastic ones.Now these brass ones are getting hard to find.
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Yes, the 'straight' type [inlet and outlet in line] to suit the early Victas are easy to find, but not these right angle taps, any more.
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They are all getting hard to find....But yes the CC and KL are easier to get, Just...Rotomo are now almost impossible. Ive got about 10 of these Ill never use. Time to ebay them and let the Vultures circle. Lols.
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Blue are they the ones with the little brass handle on them? Like that? Sorry it's not a good picture. ![[Linked Image]](https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/uploads/usergals/2015/02/full-5048-20491-tap.jpg)
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Yep, thats The one Mate. Suit Roto 1 And Around 85% of Roto 2. They are getting hard to get and pushing up over the 50$ mark now....
Anyways getting Back to Topic, Im sure he will find a tap...For ease of use and availability, Id stick with a New plastic, since its gonna be a regular worker.
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Giddy all, Sorry been of air for a while, have replaced the tap with a plastic one, works like a charm now, I think I have found a place with a new catcher for this, says he has a Mayfair catcher and a couple of others with the hook fittings, also a new rubber snorkel, just waiting for a call back. The gent in queston has a factory full of mower bits, some old stuff, but mostly modern, here's hoping. Cheers Kirky
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Sounds like there could be some good stuff there good luck.
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