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hi again . does anyone know what type of inlet setup this should have ? it seems to be half n half now , top part is newer type convoluted snorkel and been cutnshut at the bottom i think ? on the search for correct parts now as it seems to be a little different . or do the standard older vc160 parts / full rubber type snorkle fit ok thanks Dave



and more pic's of it soon , ready to paint now just waiting for time .. cheers

Acually that fella would originally have a 2-part setup, just not like that.



Although this one is slightly kinked from the throttle box being ositioned to hight it shows the setup correctly.

AAAAH thank you for that , saves me a lot of time looking for the right one . i didnt think they came with pvc in the middle ! but thought it might have had full rubber instead . seemed a tad old for the later plastic type but the air cleaner still has a pointy cap but looks too new for the condition of the rest of the machine . thanks Dave

No worries mate!

The full rubber hose was phased out along with the Alloy G3 Carby, plastic hoses have been used from the start with the plastic G4 and later LM carbies.

another of the vc , i hope oneday i can get the colour needed should look ok i think . lucky it isnt a full cowl job !
a little bright huh . and another couple i found today at a garage sale , maybe the mustang is the covered versoin of the old vc ? and someone has cut the ht' lead on the corvette but he said it did run not long ago ?!



it has no primer i can see on the mustang , normal for these ? and i think i saw someone was looking for a purple vc ? this guy has a higharch and i think it was a lowarch too , one of each and a catcher but didnt seen to fit either ! anyone remember who it was ? sorry i dont have a pic of it though .. thanks Dave

The Corvette is a 1967-1968 “V40” 160cc Corvette 2 (yours is 1967), what’s really interesting about the one you have is the carby (They used a few on that model, it was an experimental time) what you have there is the Victa 3Q carby, which is quite a unique, and hard to find carby.

It’s non-governed like the early 3F/3L/3S carbies, however it uses a plastic cap and slide, a revised venturi and jet set up, and a new float system (with top screw bowl)
It was only used sporadically from 1977 to 1979 and due to this it is quite a tricky carby to track down.

I’ll get some pictures together of the catcher and wheels for this mower, and see if I have any here, is there anything else missing?

As for the mustang, it’s indeed a relative of your “Mustang S” the green one with the full dress cowl is the standard style of Mustang, used on all mustangs (except the s) from 1973 to 1980.

The one you have there is second generation (“V206”, 1974-1978) and yes many of these did not have a primer, others had a remote primer, and later, on the third series (“WA 174 A8” 1978-1980) a slot was made in the far side of the dress cowl, to accommodate the air hose, and the carby was turned around and given a normal primer face (White)

Yours would likely have a grey “no prime” face, which has a small, angled vent instead, although it could have a remote primer face (also grey) which would indicate it may have once had the remote primer.

However, there is no sign of the mount for a remote primer in your pic’s, so I would guess it did not have a primer at all, which to me suggests it’s a little earlier in the run, say 74-76.

As for the purple VC-Sports, I was indeed looking for one some time ago, however I now have one. Though if the blue dress cowl on the one in question is in exceptionally good condition, I would be interested in arranging something.
As for the low arch one, I’m not sure where that comes in, I’ve never seen a low arch VC, let alone a Purple one!

thanks ty , a little more looking tonight at the corvette (been soaking in diesel rags to get the crud off ) and yes it does have a plastic top and slide on the carb now i can see it ! a cover on the side sort... of utility style only thing missing is the catcher i think ? and the top cowl is broken where it bolts to the head but all pieces are there though so it can be repaired . a square ish type of muffler too but odd looking torpedo sort of ???? the mustang i cant find a hole where the primer would be bolted and the throttle is reeeeeeeeeeealy notchy too , but its waiting now keen on hearing the old 'vette run thanks again ty, your such a help

and by the way , does the colour of the other base interest anyone ? dont seem to match anything i have here its a tad light green ! cheers Dave

I don't think it looks to bad, but it's a bit hard to tell how light it is on the computer!

The cover on the side of the corvette is an edge cover, it's designed to let you get the blades right up to the fence.

still works too ! looked a little odd to me tho . why have a catcher and a side chute ? now it makes sense thanks again . its is a great colour yeh but not a lot of 'hammertone' i think iv'e seen it before somewhere here ? and if i may , is the corvette solid or hammered ? hard to tell even when its cleaned , it just looks dark green even on the p,c its the same reeealy bright looks good but not right . Dave

By that point in time the Corvette's were hammer tone, they also did come with a chute, it attached in place of the catcher to direct grass to the left.

the guy that said his old pre decomp' 160 had a long reach plug ? this one has too also a plastic sleeve on the inlet that the carb' slides over , still looking at it as i'm limitid for time during the week . no spark on it yet but i think if i stated my compressor niehbours would crack it ! would it have had a plastic catcher too ? never seen one with one at all . cant even see any where it hooks on to the machine yet . cheers Dave

if anyone has a chute or catcher for it ? would be great to see at least , then i know what i'm looking for ! or a spare one ? cheers Dave

I would have a green one.It wouldn't be in the best condition,but there would be one here.

that would be great , thanks but how to get it here ! how bad is it ? thanks blumby

i see now why you guys like the vc160's so much . got it running sounds great and i cant believe how much wet grass it packs into the catcher !!! a magic machine , still a little nothchy in the throttle though as im still working out how to fix these carb's . the corvette ran with a lot of work and seems a strong old girl but doesnt seem to crank fast enough , maybe spins it 2 or 3 times . wow both were smokey ! but cleared in about 3-4 min's and ran well . thanks for the help and advice . cheers Dave

a little more on the vc"S" still trying to find some parts though , better wheels new stickers maybe a better top cowl one day ! but so far so good . sure looks better than when it got here



should have filled the scratches in the side i think ? i will know better next time now but seems ok , camera makes 'em worse than they look in daylight . cheers , Dave

It looks great!

TIP: Put some linseed oil on the covers, then put armorall polish... It will look good as new.

Kori

WOAH, you dont wan't to go putting amorall on that dress cowl mate!!!

It's only going to eat away at it over time, nasty stuff, wont even put in on the car!

Oddly, I have found the best way to tidy up the older VC dress cowls, is with a small, soft wire brush, and some penetrene.

Sounds odd, but by that age the top 1/4mm is practically powdered by sun, and you just cant bring it back all that well.

Thankfully, the sun damage is usually fairly consistant in depth, so slowly and carefully going over it with a wire brush will remove that layer, but you will still be left with the same texture when you complete the job.

Keep it wet with the penetrene, and work in small area's, at first it will seem to make it whiter, then just mucky, but after a few sprays, then scrubs, then sparays, then whipes, then repeat, it will come up a treat.

Amorall will make it look ok at first in some instances, but it will only end up sending the damage deeper.

once you have finished the cowl, your own choice of clear coat, linseed, artist laqure or just a fine layer of cooking spray will help protect it.

thanks for the tip i'll give that a try and yes i dont use armourall a lot either . haha just to make work truck look good for bosses and the sunburn does seem even front too back yup , so s good scrub with trck wash wont work ? seems to do wonders too some things ! if i leave it on for @ an hour then use a stiff brush seems to work well , gets old fuel stains out mostly .. thanks again . Dave

WOW!? I never knew that.... I've used armorall for years and never had a problem.... maybe it's just me? I don't know....

Penetrene was the stuff I couldn't think of... I've used it an linseed oil extensively on car interiors... and old lawn furniture...

Kori

I'm not clear on which version of Penetrene each of you is talking about. Internationally Penetrene is a horse linament, made up of 80% acetone, 11% menthol, and the remainder a couple of plant-based skunk oils. In Australia Penetrene usually means an oil-based local proprietary penetrating and rust preventing liquid (though the horse linament version is sold here, probably causing some confusion at times).

Personally I wouldn't be putting acetone on any kind of plastic object I wanted to keep in one piece.

To clear up, when I refer to Penetrene, I tend to be reffereing to the Penetrating Oil.

WD-40 can be substituted, but I have never found it near as effective, and for the above purpose (providing lubrication and rinsing during abrasive cleaning) I find WD-40 does not give near as nice a finnish, nor does it provide equivalent oiling to the damaged plastic during cleaning, which increases the risk of permanent damage.

new too me still , i thought it would soften the plastic ? or is it a type which is not affected as much by penetrene . gotta get some of that stuff ! wd40 i get for free haha . but gives me something to try i never thought of it before . thanks

Yeah for me penetrene is a oil/some kind of cleaning chemical, as well as some kind of varnish...

I use boiled linseed oil, and have had great luck with it...



Kori

Mate, I'll do a bit of research for you, if they export the Penetrene I know to the US, I'll let you know, if you can find it, you'll never use any other penetrating oil again!!!

Mind you, it's not easy to find, every hardware store I can think of sells WD-40, singer oil, and many more, but so far I only know 1 source of Penetrene in Canberra!

Supercheap and Repco stores sell it Ty. Also, I see at least one bulk merchant sells the 5 litre tins for under $40. Not that I can imagine having a use for that much of it myself, but paying $15 for a quarter of a litre annoys me.

seen it here localy for @ $6 for a small bottle too mitre10 i think it was , might go check n see try it instead of wd40

I know I've heard of it somewhere but I cant remember where...

I know amazon doesn't have it.

Kori

Should have used hammertone paint that would have filled the scratches in,also it should have been done in hammertone from new.Any way it doesn't look that bad.Just as long as your happy with it.That's the main thing.