Thank you Grumpy, Liked that. May I have your permission to insert your last post into the Official Magazine of the Bordertown Vehicle Restorers Club. We have a few Pommy electically deprived vehicle owners here. (errm . I am the "Official" editor of said magazine). lol - at 71 I am about the only computer literate member out of around 50 - so I got the job - plus I had a camera.... Stationary