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#97766 15/04/19 06:19 PM
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Hi all, Picked this mower up, any idea on the breed ? the only wording is on the front as per picture. Kirby/Lauson vk30 4 stroke motor.

Thanks
wce

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Hi WCE,

Interesting one there, low arch rear catcher with folding bars. I haven’t seen anything similar, perhaps Jack may be able to identify it.

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Hi wce and Paul_c,

This mower is a Hurricane or store brand Hurricane.

https://www.outdoorking-forum.com.au/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=71742

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Max


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G'day Max, Paul, and wce
Great work by all here!

wce has given us a new record - the Lightning lawnmower.
I feel we are lucky to get this far on this one...

Max is a great 'mower spotter'.
Paul has given us a significant feature, for thought ...

I can only speculate here ...
The base clearly demonstrates the move from low to medium arch jobs.
I love the gradual swoop of the base towards the chute!

The Handle and bracket assembly seem Turner inspired ...

I do believe this is a Hurricane machine, but not necessarily a store brand.
I wildly speculate this was made for another OEM ... Lightburn and Company ...?

Lightburn were certainly using 'lightning' as a brand name.
And Lightburn was ambitious ... I mean, from concrete mixers, to ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeta_(automobile)

Was the mower made by Hurricane for Lightburn?
I don't know ... frown

Any ideas?
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Jack

p.s. The images show the name plate is missing.
It was clearly a 'something' Lightning...

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Hi Jack, Paul, Max

Had a look at my other 2 Turners, the bars and quick release fold down mechanism are the same as the lightning.

Cheers
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G'day wce
Many thanks for confirming the Turner components.

Quite advanced for c1964 having a rising chute and
note the double skirt at the front!

Cheers
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Jack

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Hi all

Was having a look over the Lightning today and could make out on the wheels the manufacture was Walter Barr Pty Ltd. Took a wheel off and there was no manufacture markings on the rim or hub cap, hope this helps with a possible id of the mower.

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G'day wce
I do want to say something about Walter Barr - an important supplier
of wheels to many AUS lawnmowers. They did a lot more too.

I'll try and get something posted in Company Histories shortly.
Maybe that will provoke some memories.

Cheers
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Hi all
Decided to have a go at getting the lightning going today as it has great compression but there was no spark evident. Put the mower on the bench to start investigating the problem, wasn't having much luck and decided to call it a day. As I turned to walk away something caught my eye on the height adjustment lever rubber, I grabbed the lead light and the word Hurricane is on there ! the rubber is in good condition and looks original. Hope this helps to put another piece in the jigsaw.

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Good Morning, WCE, Jack and Maxwestern,

I would say that the mower is definitely a Hurricane as stated earlier by Max but the β€œLightning” is a big red herring. Just a bit of naming to make the mower more appealing to the customer.

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When new and fitted with the four stroke Kirby engine plus a rear catcher it would have been a very nice machine to own.

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What's with the handlebars though? They just look odd the way they bend back twice.
The base looks good quality though.


Ahh, if only victa had kept producing the thumblatch catcher series, they would be in better shape today!
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I would say that the mower is definitely a Hurricane as stated earlier by Max but the β€œLightning” is a big red herring. Just a bit of naming to make the mower more appealing to the customer.
Hello Paul and Mowerfreak.
I guess so, but the issue was whether the Lightning was a factory model or a rebrand
done by Hurricane to a 3rd party customer.

My best guess - now - is that this is a factory model.
Reason: There is a thematic connection between 'Hurricane' and 'Lightning'.
Both are weather events...

My speculation (previous post) that this machine was branded to Lightburn
was way too speculative.

The problem is finding evidence to support this.

Cheers
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Jack

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Hi all

Very interesting thoughts.
Although the handle bars look at little odd Mowerfreak they are at a very comfortable height, for me anyway, and have a real solid feel with no flexing at the deck mount points like a lot of modern mowers.
Operation "get Lightning to strike again " is underway, excellent compression but no spark so off with the flywheel to check out, gee the noise the flywheels make when they pop off the crank makes my heart jump into my mouth every time. Safe to say that no lightning has come from this machine for a long period. The coil has an open circuit so need to source another. Maybe this is why she was retired. Unfortunately the starter drum is cracked also.

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Although the handle bars look at little odd Mowerfreak they are at a very comfortable height, for me anyway, and have a real solid feel with no flexing at the deck mount points like a lot of modern mowers.
I knew there had to be an upside to that design wce!!

Have you considered whacking electronic ignition onto it?


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Hi Mowerfreak

No I haven't considered that option and I haven't done that modification before, if I can't get a coil it might be the way to go.

Thanks
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Before you get too excited you still need a working coil

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Hi ODK Members,

I have done some cross referencing with the coils and you can purchase new from China for quite cheap. I have ordered 2 of these to evaluate and they are on there way.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ignition-Coil-Module-Magneto-for-Tecumseh-30560A-13513990-Lawn-Mower-3-10hp-Well/332714799742?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

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Cross reference, not available through ODK store

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Hope this helps.



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Hi Paul

many thanks for the information.

Cheers
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Hi Paul

What secures the coil to the armature ?

Cheers
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Hi WCE,

What secures the coil to the armature ?

There is a piece of wire that you un clip and that’s it, using two screw drivers gently lever the coil off. I will have a look for a pic.

The wire may be on the underside of the coil plate out of view from the top.

All the best
Paul

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