Hi Tyler, yes I tried moving the primer cap forward and backwards in an attempt to get the needles to drop or to get them to shut off, anti clockwise to try and put a bit more pressure to close the needle off, and clockwise to try and get the needle to open, none of which made a lot of difference. Also tried the lapping compound bit more smoke and mirrors , rubbing the supposed rough sides off the needle, all pretty much useless. Regardless of whether I have a mower that is running well on a plastic needle, obviously an original Victa one, I throw them out and replace with a viton tipped one, just not worth the problem to me if they play up