Mowerfreak, going by the spider webs on the muffler I would say very similar but earlier models and from memory they were about 148cc . I would have to check but if that is one of your mowers I could explain what I ended up doing. Another thing that put me right off the Hondas with these was that very quickly the pull start would rip its way out of the top and this was not helped by the hard starting. I cured that problem by fitting an eye bolt to the hold down stud beside the pull handle and now it has a guide to run through. Some companies spend years building a good reputation and then seem happy to trash it trying to exploit their brand name. I guess it is because the original founding members of these companies have pride in their product but once they have departed the scene the bean counters take control and pride is not in their make up, it is all about how can we make the quickest dollar

Last edited by NormK; 11/06/17 03:46 PM.