one of these is the webb i asked about how to send link from ebay , still havnt worked it out must be nissing something . a few cells maybe !! gunna be a busy boy when the weather fines up thier breeding at night i think webb cuts ok as it is ! havnt looked at the captain as yet but seem a good bullet proof engine so far . some of the others , light green oneas far as i can find out is a 1959 commodore , that and a rover/S,B are the only ones without catchers . Dave