wow !!! just take your time mate nooooooo hurry at all . from the info and help so far it sounds like i'm gunna take some time on this one still practising blush but thanks for trying . its off to the mates tomorrow for some filling welds n the cut repaired then try and find some paint . engine is last so no hurry . hope its not broken ! i feel bad enough already bigshock dont like folks being hurt trying to help . good luck and thanks .. Dave