thanks deejay , the cup is ordered just wiating now i'll strip it down on the weekend though and see what else it needs . do you know if they have old style rubber snorkel or the newer type ? hahaha this seems to have both !! and i dont like to hurry it too much or i could pull the cup from another , a tad light on for wrecks yet , still a little new here so not many spares yet .. Dave